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Old 09-18-2012, 11:31 AM  
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Pioli says Chiefs can turn around after 0-2 start

Pioli says Chiefs can turn around after 0-2 start
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star




Like seemingly much of Kansas City, general manager Scott Pioli is more than a little stunned by the Chiefs’ 0-2 start.

But Pioli said Tuesday that his confidence in the Chiefs is not shaken and he remains convinced the Chiefs can still make something of their season.

“If any one of us knew what the answer was, we wouldn’t be sitting where we’re sitting right now,” Pioli said. “But I also don’t think it’s the end of the world. We have 14 games left. We’re certainly digging a hole but it’s not something we can’t get out of. Everyone within the organization is disappointed in the results so far. We’re all surprised because I don’t think any one of us went into the season thinking we would be 0-2. I don’t think any of us anticipated that.

“(He expects the Chiefs) to improve, get better and start winning some games in whatever order that is. Those are my expectations, but I want to be clear those are mine and our expectations. I think those are the players’ expectations, the coaching staff, the fan base. Our expectations at the beginning of this year were that we were going to be winning games. Right now, we haven’t done that. (But) we’re two games into a 16-game season.”

The Chiefs are one of six 0-2 teams in the NFL, but they weren’t close to winning either game. Their scoring differential of minus-34 points is second-worst in the league behind only Tennessee.

As the general manager, Pioli built the roster. Asked whether he was guilty of overestimating the abilities of some of the Chiefs’ players, Pioli said, “We think the roster is good enough. I think it is. Now it comes down to executing. We improved this team through free agency and did quite a bit of spending to improve this team whether it was contract extensions or the signing of other players. Time will tell if it was enough. I think it was.”

Regarding their spending, figures supplied by the NFL Players Association showed the Chiefs to have more than $26 million in available room under the league’s salary cap. Pioli said he didn’t regret not using more of that available cap space when the Chiefs built their roster.

“I think there are things we did do that helped this football team,” Pioli said. “I also know for a fact that this year alone we’re spending over $141 million in cash this year. That’s more than $20 million over the cap.

“It’s been proven time and time again that there’s not a direct correlation between spending cap dollars and winning. There’s not.”

Pioli said the Chiefs would need to allocate some of their available 2012 salary cap space toward the 2013 cap. He didn’t provide 2013 cap figures, but his comments indicate the Chiefs might otherwise be snug against the cap next season.

“We had better have cap room this year to roll over for next year to make sure we’re (in good shape),” Pioli said. “(Using available salary cap space) is not a year-by-year, fly-by-the-seat-of-your-pants thing.

Pioli during the offseason also hired Romeo Crennel as head coach, promoting him from defensive coordinator. Crennel finished last season as the interim coach. The Chiefs went 2-1 in those games and fell just short of making the playoffs and completing a dramatic turnaround.

Crennel remains the defensive coordinator this season as well. But the poor play of the Chiefs’ defense is a big reason for the 0-2 start. They have allowed 75 points, which is tied for worst in the league.

Asked whether Crennel was the right coach to direct the Chiefs out of their hole, Pioli said, “Absolutely he is. I think he’s doing a good job. I really do.”

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2012/09/18...#storylink=cpy
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Old 09-21-2012, 10:47 AM   #301
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I see. You are to stupid to understand.

The season is over the first week of February.

Free agency begins in March.

You have no idea what you are talking about. He couldn't have signed shit the second the season was over.

Go educate yourself dumb ****.
You're a ****ing idiot and everyone knows exactly to what I was talking about, except you.

The league year (i.e., SEASON) is over the day before Free Agency starts. That's exactly what I said.

JFC. You're an imbecile.
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Old 09-21-2012, 10:49 AM   #302
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Old 09-21-2012, 10:52 AM   #303
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There is nothing in the CBA that says that a player has to become a free agent if he receives a 30% raise.

You provided 2 links. One was about franchise tags and entirely irrelevant. The second link was to the actual CBA. I challenge you to show me the portion that says a player has to become a FA once he receives a 30% raise. To make it easier for you, the 30% rules are listed in article 13, section 7.

The only thing it states is that a renegotiation cannot contain annual base increases of 30% above the base of the final year of the existing contract.
Hey dumbass, maybe it will help if someone else says it.....and **** youTOO.

I have explained it enough and provided you with links. Look up "the 30% rule" in the table of contents in the cba. Check the old and the new cba.

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Carr in 10 was on his rookie deal making 400k and in 11 signed his tender of 2million that was a 30% jump.Under the 30% rule carr cant sign a new deal till Mar 13 start of league year he has to hit the open market.

The Steelers and Woodley, a former second-round pick, are currently hamstrung with working out a long-term deal because of difficulties with the 30-percent rule under the old CBA, which expires in March. The franchise tag would keep Woodley off the open market and would buy both sides time to work out a long-term deal once a new CBA is reached.



The 30 percent rule applies to the renegotiation of any contracts.

It means that the player’s salary in 2010 can’t be more than 30 percent greater than the player’s salary in 2009. For players still operating under the minimum base salaries of a slotted rookie deal, that’s a problem. A big problem.



http://profootballtalk.nbcspor...-uncapped-year/

I cant find out anywhere if the 30% rule is in the new CBA need some help.Does anyone here know?
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Found this, and yea this could be an issue.

Anatomy of the NFL 30-Percent Rule

By Dominic Perilli

Often times with young, stud players such as Chris Johnson, Darrelle Revis, DeSean Jackson, and Patrick Willis, we hear a lot about what is called the 30% rule. The 30% rule basically states that a player’s new deal cannot be an increase of the annual salary of the rookie deal by more than 30 percent. When calculating the 30% amount of a contract, you must add everything but the signing bonus and other escalators (base salary + Option Bonus + Roster Bonus). Here is a quick example:
Year Base Salary Option Bonus Roster /Workout Bonus Total Salary 30% Amount
2010 $550,000 0 $100,000 $650,000 $195,000
As you can see, 30% of the total salary in 2010 is $195,000. Therefore, in the new deal the total salary each year can only increase or decrease by $195,000, and nothing more. Here is how the rule will be applied after signing a new deal:
Year Base Salary Prorated Option Bonus Roster /Workout Bonus Total Salary Increase from Previous Year
2011 $650,000 $195,000 0 $845,000 +$195,000
2012 $845,000 $195,000 0 $1.04 million +$195,000
2013 $1.1 million 0 $135,000 $1.235 million +$195,000
2014 $1.295 million 0 $135,000 $1.43 million +$195,000
Some of you may be asking why we sometimes see players like Patrick Willis getting these mega deals while still on his rookie contract. Well, that is what signing bonuses and escalators are for. Teams often give a player like Willis a huge signing bonus and a lot of easily achievable escalators.
Let’s face it – The rules in the NFL CBA are mostly on the side of the individual teams and not the players. This is mostly evident in the fact that a club can end a player’s contract if he doesn’t perform well enough. The player cannot just terminate his contract if he’s not happy, so that’s why we hear a lot about holdouts. When I was younger boy entering my teens, I would often stage holdouts at my house. I knew I had no say in my household and the rules heavily favored my parents. In order to combat that, I would refuse to go out when my parents wanted to. That’s kind of a random example, but hopefully makes the situation more clear.
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Yup its the 30% rule nick wright talked about it today
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Old 09-21-2012, 10:55 AM   #304
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You're a ****ing idiot and everyone knows exactly to what I was talking about, except you.

The league year (i.e., SEASON) is over the day before Free Agency starts. That's exactly what I said.

JFC. You're an imbecile.
Bullshit. If that were true you would have said it along time ago you ****ing LIAR.
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Old 09-21-2012, 10:59 AM   #305
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Hey dumbass, maybe it will help if someone else says it.....and **** youTOO.

I have explained it enough and provided you with links. Look up "the 30% rule" in the table of contents in the cba. Check the old and the new cba.
Again, there is not a single thing that says a player must become a UFA after receiving a 30% increase.

I suggest you read the CBA. Article 13, section 7. THERE IS NOTHING THAT SAYS A PLAYER MUST BECOME A UFA
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Old 09-21-2012, 11:11 AM   #306
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Pioli has everybody right where he wants them.

You want a franchise QB???

Go winless this year and get one. Pretty simple, really.
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Old 09-21-2012, 11:33 AM   #310
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Again, there is not a single thing that says a player must become a UFA after receiving a 30% increase.

I suggest you read the CBA. Article 13, section 7. THERE IS NOTHING THAT SAYS A PLAYER MUST BECOME A UFA
What are you missing man? You are looking at the wrong ****ing section and like everyone else around here, you wouldn't have done this if you had read what I said. You are wasting my ****ing time making me look this shit up.

Yes, in the new cba, the 30% rule was revised to say you can't go over 30% PERIOD. That's what you are reading right?

In the previous CBA, you could go over 30% but if you did, you had to let the guy become a free agent in March...

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In fact it was in effect by the old cba definition for 2011 as part of the new cba agreement.

WHAT ARE YOU MISSING?

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Old 09-21-2012, 11:35 AM   #311
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What are you missing man? You are looking at the wrong ****ing section and like everyone else around here, you wouldn't have done this if you had read what I said. You are wasting my ****ing time making me look this shit up.

Yes, in the new cba, the 30% rule was revised to say you can't go over 30% PERIOD. That's what you are reading right?

In the previous CBA, you could go over 30% but if you did, you had to let the guy become a free agent in March...




WHAT ARE YOU MISSING?
And yet, some of you a$$holes think this isn't a clay mult...
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Ummm ... I'm a little confused about this whole free agent tender 30% deal thing ...

Can someone explain this?

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Ummm ... I'm a little confused about this whole free agent tender 30% deal thing ...

Can someone explain this?

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Again, there is not a single thing that says a player must become a UFA after receiving a 30% increase.

I suggest you read the CBA. Article 13, section 7. THERE IS NOTHING THAT SAYS A PLAYER MUST BECOME A UFA
The bottom line is that most of it's in Article 11 and it carried over from the old CBA.
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