****OFFICIAL SEAHAWKS vs PACKERS MNF THREAD****

[Joe Seahawk]

Should be a good game, this MNF crowd (including me ) will be off the hook!

Nice win today Chiefs, hopefully this can get the mojo going in the right direction.


SEAHAWKS! SEAHAWKS! SEAHAWKS!

[BourbonMan]

My 2 Cents...I am not trying to defend the Replacement Refs, they did make a bad call on the field...But the Replay Booth should have overturned the call on the field. The people in the Replay Booth are Official NFL Employees(NOT REPLACEMENT). The first thing they should have said..was pass interference, then they should have known that all ties go to the offense.

Again not trying to defend the Replacement Refs(They are Terrible)..this is all on the Replay Booth.

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by BourbonMan

My 2 Cents...I am not trying to defend the Replacement Refs, they did make a bad call on the field...But the Replay Booth should have overturned the call on the field. The people in the Replay Booth are Official NFL Employees(NOT REPLACEMENT). The first thing they should have said..was pass interference, then they should have known that all ties go to the offense.

Again not trying to defend the Replacement Refs(They are Terrible)..this is all on the Replay Booth.

except for the call not being reversible, spot on

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

I would put them up there with the Tuck Rule, Seattle/Pitt Superbowl, Detroits phantom incomplete pass, I am sure there are many others...

It was bad, but the regulars **** up too....

The Tuck Rule is definately up there. Wow, what a ****job that was (Don't give a crap about the made up rule that was apparently in place it was a fumble). That was the most shocked I've been to an ending of a game until this one.

[QuikSsurfer]

[Molitoth]

Originally Posted by QuikSsurfer

[the Talking Can]

"Most of the customers in the sportsbook were not happy with the final call," said John Avello, director of the race and sportsbook at the Wynn in Las Vegas. "The shift was 100 percent. After the (Seahawks) score, all bets were reversed."

Avello's best guess as to how much money was shifted worldwide on the call? $150 million in total bets worldwide.

Jeff Sherman, assistant director of the race and sportsbook at the Las Vegas Hotel, says he estimates that the game shifted $15 million in Nevada alone and also concurs with Avello that the worldwide number, including offshore sportsbooks and in Europe, is worth about 10 times more.

worst beat ever...

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/84...-150-250m-bets

[Ming the Merciless]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

He didn't even mention the COMICALLY obvious pass interference that Tate had before the ball arrived. There was a Packer defender in front of him and he literally gave him a double arm, full extension shove that pushed the defender forward and made him fall down, completely taking him out of the play.

Horrible. Absolutely horrible. The Packers got just about the worst screwing I've ever seen.

Yah, forgot this...In fact Amnorix is right....the Offensive Pass interference is arguably more blatant than the interception....He shoved the guy in front of him with both hands, intentionally...so hard he flew a couple feet and fell...LOL

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

I would put them up there with the Tuck Rule, Seattle/Pitt Superbowl, Detroits phantom incomplete pass, I am sure there are many others...

It was bad, but the regulars **** up too....

The Seattle/Pitt Super Bowl didn't literally decide the outcome of the game on one bad call.

The rest of those are good calls, but just really ****ing dumb rules.

This is a case of the head official being a ****ing idiot, getting a second chance through the replay, and then affirming the same blatant LIE of a call that was made.

This call is worse than any of those others. It's the worst I've ever seen in my entire life.

[oldandslow]

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

I would put them up there with the Tuck Rule, Seattle/Pitt Superbowl, Detroits phantom incomplete pass, I am sure there are many others...

It was bad, but the regulars **** up too....

Granted...once in a while...however, these games are now going four hours...with multiple bad calls per game.

It's all about the amount. It's reaching the point of not being watchable.

[QuikSsurfer]

[Thig Lyfe]

Originally Posted by Shogun

closer look i think its a fake lol. solid on the guy to nab "Frank_Gore" name on twitter

Gee, what tipped you off? Was it the fact that his name is listed as "Not Frank Gore"?

[Nzoner]

Originally Posted by Shogun

oh shit

A buddy of mine at the bar I was at saw that and no less than 10 people started calling,a few of us actually got through and left messages.

[FAX]

Hmmm ... the NFL prefers peeing down your leg to offering you an umbrella.

They do admit that there was an offensive PI on the play that wasn't called ...

"While the ball is in the air, Tate can be seen shoving Green Bay cornerback Sam Shields to the ground. This should have been a penalty for offensive pass interference, which would have ended the game. It was not called and is not reviewable in instant replay."

However, they claim that the call was "simultaneous possession". I guess that happens when two different officials call it two different ways ...

"When the players hit the ground in the end zone, the officials determined that both Tate and Jennings had possession of the ball. Under the rule for simultaneous catch, the ball belongs to Tate, the offensive player. The result of the play was a touchdown."

And I was told that instant replay could not review possession on that play, but not so ...

"Replay Official Howard Slavin stopped the game for an instant replay review. The aspects of the play that were reviewable included if the ball hit the ground and who had possession of the ball. In the end zone, a ruling of a simultaneous catch is reviewable. That is not the case in the field of play, only in the end zone.

Referee Wayne Elliott determined that no indisputable visual evidence existed to overturn the call on the field, and as a result, the on-field ruling of touchdown stood. The NFL Officiating Department reviewed the video today and supports the decision not to overturn the on-field ruling following the instant replay review."


So they had an additional opportunity to get it right and failed. Just an amazing turn of events requiring the NFL PR machine to gear up. The release is here ...

http://nflcommunications.com/2012/09...seahawks-game/

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[Pasta Little Brioni]

Do they think the fans are blind or something? Jeez.

[FAX]

Originally Posted by PGM

Do they think the fans are blind or something? Jeez.

I'm going to take a slightly different tack ...

First off, in real time and live, that could well have looked like simultaneous possession. I mean, you've got players reaching up, the ball arrives, and "bing, bang, boom", everybody's on the ground.

Second off, the officials didn't appear to be in the ideal position to make the call and ran in to observe the play as though it were a scrum. No call was made until they examined the players on the ground.

Given that, it could be that simultaneous possession was the right call. I mean, when you restrict the decision-making to the information the refs had at the time.

However, that does not excuse the fact that the PI was not called ... a blatant PI, by the way. And it doesn't explain how the two officials called the play completely differently.

Finally, instant replay had an opportunity to correct the call but chose to defer. That is the biggest screw up in this entire deal. They had plenty of angles. Maybe they really did chicken out.

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