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[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Hell look at what he did with Cassel in his system when Brady got hurt?

A 16-0 team to a 11-5? On a weak schedule, no less.

Awesome.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by Dave

A 16-0 team to a 11-5? On a weak schedule, no less.

Awesome.

Well Belicheck did build the rest of the team to carry a bad QB. Kind defeats the whole "the Pats are nothing without Brady" theory.

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Well Belicheck did build the rest of the team to carry a bad QB. Kind defeats the whole "the Pats are nothing without Brady" theory.

How successful was it in the post-season?

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by Dave

How successful was it in the post-season?

Say what you want, but Belichecks system works.

He's continued drafting great players after Pioli and Dimitroff left.
The guy knows how to build a team. I don't think they are gonna tank after Brady leaves as long as Belicheck stays.

Hell I bet they could put Mallet in the rest of year and still win that division.

[cyborgtable]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Say what you want, but Belichecks system works.

He's continued drafting great players after Pioli and Dimitroff left.
The guy knows how to build a team. I don't think they are gonna tank after Brady leaves as long as Belicheck stays.

Hell I bet they could put Mallet in the rest of year and still win that division.

The myth that he is a good drafter is the most annoying part of the whole Bellicheat genius myth. He inherited the core of that defense and signed free agents for the missing pieces.

His recent draft record is also rather abysmal. He has drafted two very good tight ends but nothing else, a decent starting corner, two slow middle linebackers who don't play with much discipline, pumping picks into an O-line that couldn't stop the Cardinals defense or Baltimore's.

His recent defense, which is supposedly his forte, has been awful. He plays a very conservative defense which worked when he was aloud to hold receivers past 5 yards but not so much anymore. He plays it with poor athlete's who were other teams dredge.

Bottom line, he inherited a very solid defense, caught lightning in a bottle with Tom Brady, cheated to his superbowl victories. It took him 3 years to win a playoff game since getting outed. The "super" offense he uses has been beaten by the same team in the superbowl twice and they ran the exact same scheme both times, so much for never losing twice. He is a cheating fraud who is carried by Tom Brady nothing else

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by cyborgtable

The myth that he is a good drafter is the most annoying part of the whole Bellicheat genius myth. He inherited the core of that defense and signed free agents for the missing pieces.

His recent draft record is also rather abysmal. He has drafted two very good tight ends but nothing else, a decent starting corner, two slow middle linebackers who don't play with much discipline, pumping picks into an O-line that couldn't stop the Cardinals defense or Baltimore's.

His recent defense, which is supposedly his forte, has been awful. He plays a very conservative defense which worked when he was aloud to hold receivers past 5 yards but not so much anymore. He plays it with poor athlete's who were other teams dredge.

Bottom line, he inherited a very solid defense, caught lightning in a bottle with Tom Brady, cheated to his superbowl victories. It took him 3 years to win a playoff game since getting outed. The "super" offense he uses has been beaten by the same team in the superbowl twice and they ran the exact same scheme both times, so much for never losing twice. He is a cheating fraud who is carried by Tom Brady nothing else

Jerod Mayo and Devin McCourty look like good players. Oh and Chandler Jones and Donta Hightower were damn good picks.

[cyborgtable]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Jerod Mayo and Devin McCourty look like good players. Oh and Chandler Jones and Donta Hightower were damn good picks.

So 4 years of trading back picks, leading the league in picks in atleast two of those years and 4 players look good. Jerod Mayo is a good starter nothing special, McCourty looked bad last year and is playing solidly this year jury is still out, and 2 rookies cause you know how a rookie plays the first 4 weeks of the season is how their career is going to look

[mcaj22]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Well Belicheck did build the rest of the team to carry a bad QB. Kind defeats the whole "the Pats are nothing without Brady" theory.

there was some hall of fame talent still on that team in the twilight of their careers

you or I could have quarterbacked that team to 11 wins

the window was small. A bad QB on the current younger Pats team now would struggle like a bad QB is doing on a younger Chiefs team. The Pats team was able to rebuild and go young for the future while their QB got older and still able to stay competitive and successful every year