Post Pioli, are we looking at a full rebuild?

[WhiteWhale]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

This post makes no sense.

First of all, I never said move to a 4-3. I'm talking about switching from a 2-gap to a 1-gap. In a 2-gap, your D-linemen occupy gaps. They don't go after the QB. So you take three pass rushers out of the equation on every play and you limit your ability to blitz. In a zone blitz or 1-gap 3-4, your 3 linemen attack, as well as some of your back guys like Hali and Houston.

Houston and Hali are exceptional pass rushers. Dorsey would be too in a 1-gap 3-4. Poe could be groomed to be. And DJ, Berry, and Arenas would be effective blitzers. It's not talent. It's scheme. When Romeo chooses to attack, through the blitz or by stunting his linemen, the defense does well. But his scheme isn't built around that.

They have to read and react, which prevents them from attacking off the snap like they could in a 1 gap, but they're not somehow disallowed from rushing the passer once they read it as such. I don't know why people always apply their run responsibilities to the pass.

It makes the rushing the QB more difficult for 2 guys who aren't very good at it anyway, but good players at DE can thrive in the defense and still grab 4-6 sacks and a decent amount of pressure. Dorsey being a pass rusher was always a projection that makes no sense. He had 13 sacks in college. He was never a 1 gap explosive pass rusher in college. He's never shown exceptional explosion in the NFL. I just don't see Dorsey becoming THAT much better in a 1 gap system.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

They have to read and react, which prevents them from attacking off the snap like they could in a 1 gap, but they're not somehow disallowed from rushing the passer once they read it as such. I don't know why people always apply their run responsibilities to the pass.

It makes the rushing the QB more difficult for 2 guys who aren't very good at it anyway, but good players at DE can thrive in the defense and still grab 4-6 sacks and a decent amount of pressure. Dorsey being a pass rusher was always a projection that makes no sense. He had 13 sacks in college. He was never a 1 gap explosive pass rusher in college. He's never shown exceptional explosion in the NFL. I just don't see Dorsey becoming THAT much better in a 1 gap system.

Well, yeah. That's the point I was trying to make. They aren't put into a good position to rush the passer. I don't think Dorsey would make a good pass rusher because he doesn't have the closing speed. But he could at least create some extra pocket pressure by collapsing the pocket. Dorsey's strength in college was that he has a tremendous first step and he knows how to get into the backfield.