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Old 10-08-2012, 03:28 PM  
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PFF refocused: Ravens/Chiefs

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Kansas City – Three Performances of Note

Game of Two Halves

While his overall stat line (30 carries for 140 yards) looks impressive, running back Jamaal Charles (+0.7) wore down in a big way in the second half as the Ravens did a much better job of containing the Chiefs rushing attack. As a team they ran for 179 yards on 34 carries in the first half but managed just 35 yards on 16 carries in the second half working out at a drop of 3.2 yards per carry from one half to the next. Usually a team runs the ball to that level to wear down an opponent but it was the Chiefs who tired this time. That left a Chiefs offense that had no faith in its quarterback and what looked like no Plan B in the second half against a Ravens team that wasn’t at its best on this occasion.


Complete Pass Rush

Chiefs fans have waited for the defense to get production from both pass rushers in the one game and that wait was rewarded by both Tamba Hali (+3.3) and Justin Houston (+5.6) as the duo combined for 13 total pressures. Houston, our most productive pass rusher amongst 3-4 outside linebackers going into the game outperformed his teammate again on Sunday, generating two sacks and six hurries on his way to a PRP Rating of 28.9. Hali matched him in sacks and added another three hurries of his own. His second sack came in controversial fashion on 2nd-and-10 with 3:42 remaining in the game. Blowing by Osemele on the outside he was able to get his hands on Flacco causing the official to blow the play dead seconds before Flacco fumbled. It’s the right call if he believes the quarterback was in the grasp but it’s a call that could have turned the game nonetheless.


Matt Cassel

With an apparent concussion to starting quarterback Matt Cassel (-1.1), it looks like Chiefs fans will get their wish to see Brady Quinn (+0.9 ) attempt to drive the offense towards the end zone. But while Chiefs fans have been quick to look to Quinn as their saviour (or at least a better option) it’s worth pointing out that Cassel wasn’t necessarily as awful as his stat line shows. While his fumble at the goal line on with 11:54 left in the 3rd quarter was inexcusable (likewise his delay of game penalty at the end of the first half) neither interception was the result of a poor throw or decision. The first came from a pass deflection from cornerback Cary Williams while the second was the result of a dropped pass from Dwayne Bowe. We’re not saying he was good by any stretch, but is a switch to Brady Quinn really going to fix the problem? Time will tell.


Game Notes

- Coming into the game completing 39% of his passes beyond 20 yards, both of Flacco’s deep passes fell incomplete.


- Sticking with the Ravens passing game, the team combined to drop four passes on Sunday – twice as many in this game that they had in their four prior games.

- Jamaal Charles’ yards per carry dropped from 6.3 in the first half to 1.5 in the second half.


Game Ball
While he wasn’t flawless, Paul Kruger stepped his play up in a big way and was played a big role in the team stopping a Chiefs running game that gashed them in the first half.
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Old 10-08-2012, 04:50 PM   #16
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Old 10-08-2012, 04:52 PM   #17
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Brady Quinn strikes me as a guy who will go out and throw 4 picks instead of checking it down.

Different kind of suck, incoming.
Yep.

It's just almost exactly like the Cassel vs. Orton debate last year.

Two sides of the same shitty coin.
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Old 10-08-2012, 04:55 PM   #18
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"Jamaal Charles’ yards per carry dropped from 6.3 in the first half to 1.5 in the second half."


go fist your grandma's grandma. You did not watch this game. Jamaal was asked to do the impossible. I could see him doing his "not sure if serious" impression on those plays. The OL is showing signs they could become good. But, c'mon, it's Ray Ray and it's a close game fourth qtr -- you want to run under those circumstances, you better have explosives.
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Old 10-08-2012, 05:40 PM   #19
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Yesterday I heard people arguing that neither interception was Cassel's fault.
I've also heard that the interceptions WERE Bowe's fault. I call bullshit on both counts.

The first interception was a great play made by the defender to get a hand in and tip the ball up.
Wasn't Cassel's fault. Wasn't Bowe's fault.

The second interception was a bad throw. The ball was thrown high and to the back shoulder. A back shoulder throw on a crossing route going the other way. Horrible ball placement. Bowe had to leave his feet. That was definitely on Cassel.
Wrong. That was on Bowe. I hate Cassel as much as anyone, but Bowe should have made that catch. Not every pass from elite QBs are on target, and sometimes they throw high. Bowe wants to be paid like a top 5-10 receiver. A top 5-10 receiver makes that catch and so should he.
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Old 10-08-2012, 06:39 PM   #20
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Old 10-08-2012, 06:42 PM   #21
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Safe to say Houston is our best defensive player this far. Glad he proves me wrong, I did not think he would have this type of season in his career. Way more athletic then I thought
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Old 10-08-2012, 06:45 PM   #22
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Yesterday I heard people arguing that neither interception was Cassel's fault.
I've also heard that the interceptions WERE Bowe's fault. I call bullshit on both counts.

The first interception was a great play made by the defender to get a hand in and tip the ball up.
Wasn't Cassel's fault. Wasn't Bowe's fault.

The second interception was a bad throw. The ball was thrown high and to the back shoulder. A back shoulder throw on a crossing route going the other way. Horrible ball placement. Bowe had to leave his feet. That was definitely on Cassel.

PFF's credibility is taking a hit here, IMO. No bad throws or bad decisions?

Bullshit.

Mic is spot on in his analysis, and didn't even mention that on one of the throws, a Chief receiver (Maneri, IIRC) was standing wide open with no one within 10 yards of him.

If that's not a bad decision, I'm not sure what is.
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Old 10-08-2012, 06:50 PM   #23
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PFF's credibility is taking a hit here, IMO. No bad throws or bad decisions?

Bullshit.

Mic is spot on in his analysis, and didn't even mention that on one of the throws, a Chief receiver (Maneri, IIRC) was standing wide open with no one within 10 yards of him.

If that's not a bad decision, I'm not sure what is.
Let's be fair here.

Amy time Cassel decides to throw the ball it's a bad decision, so maybe they grade him on a curve. Yesterday he never made a decision as bad as throwing an int on a screen pass.
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Old 10-08-2012, 06:52 PM   #24
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I'm praying for a coaching change next year so we can bring in Rex Ryan as the DC. He'd be ****ing perfect with this defense.
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Let's be fair here.

Amy time Cassel decides to throw the ball it's a bad decision, so maybe they grade him on a curve. Yesterday he never made a decision as bad as throwing an int on a screen pass.
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Old 10-08-2012, 06:53 PM   #26
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There's some truth to this.

Quinn will do more thing that actively piss us off. He'll fire a couple of balls downfield that miss their target by 5 feet and end up getting picked. He'll also force balls into coverage that you silently pray find grass instead of an opponent.

But as you've noted - it's a different kind of suck. It's a more hopeful form of suck where we can at least see the occasional flashes of what some of the talent on this team could do with a real QB at the helm....right before a backbreaking interception.

It's essentially like being caned instead of whipped. In the end, it's probably the best we can hope for.
Basically Quinn will take chances, while Cassel will be a scared mother ****er.

I can handle a risk-taker instead of a pussy mother ****er until this season ends.
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Old 10-08-2012, 06:54 PM   #27
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How can he say neither INT was Cassel's fault? Ok, the first one to Bowe there was clear PI. However, Bowe was double-triple covered and Maneri was flying wide open with no one within 10 yards of him. Cassel never should have thrown the damn ball there in the first place.

The 2nd INT Bowe should have caught but again, it was high and slightly behind.
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I'm praying for a coaching change next year so we can bring in Rex Ryan as the DC. He'd be ****ing perfect with this defense.
Hell, I'd take Rex or Rob.

Hell, I'd take Rex and Rob.

I want someone who will instill some ****ing toughness and attitude. This team has been soft for years.
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Old 10-08-2012, 06:57 PM   #29
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Hell, I'd take Rex or Rob.

Hell, I'd take Rex and Rob.

I want someone who will instill some ****ing toughness and attitude. This team has been soft for years.
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Hell, I'd take Rex or Rob.

Hell, I'd take Rex and Rob.

I want someone who will instill some ****ing toughness and attitude. This team has been soft for years.
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