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Old 10-08-2012, 03:28 PM  
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Kansas City – Three Performances of Note

Game of Two Halves

While his overall stat line (30 carries for 140 yards) looks impressive, running back Jamaal Charles (+0.7) wore down in a big way in the second half as the Ravens did a much better job of containing the Chiefs rushing attack. As a team they ran for 179 yards on 34 carries in the first half but managed just 35 yards on 16 carries in the second half working out at a drop of 3.2 yards per carry from one half to the next. Usually a team runs the ball to that level to wear down an opponent but it was the Chiefs who tired this time. That left a Chiefs offense that had no faith in its quarterback and what looked like no Plan B in the second half against a Ravens team that wasn’t at its best on this occasion.


Complete Pass Rush

Chiefs fans have waited for the defense to get production from both pass rushers in the one game and that wait was rewarded by both Tamba Hali (+3.3) and Justin Houston (+5.6) as the duo combined for 13 total pressures. Houston, our most productive pass rusher amongst 3-4 outside linebackers going into the game outperformed his teammate again on Sunday, generating two sacks and six hurries on his way to a PRP Rating of 28.9. Hali matched him in sacks and added another three hurries of his own. His second sack came in controversial fashion on 2nd-and-10 with 3:42 remaining in the game. Blowing by Osemele on the outside he was able to get his hands on Flacco causing the official to blow the play dead seconds before Flacco fumbled. It’s the right call if he believes the quarterback was in the grasp but it’s a call that could have turned the game nonetheless.


Matt Cassel

With an apparent concussion to starting quarterback Matt Cassel (-1.1), it looks like Chiefs fans will get their wish to see Brady Quinn (+0.9 ) attempt to drive the offense towards the end zone. But while Chiefs fans have been quick to look to Quinn as their saviour (or at least a better option) it’s worth pointing out that Cassel wasn’t necessarily as awful as his stat line shows. While his fumble at the goal line on with 11:54 left in the 3rd quarter was inexcusable (likewise his delay of game penalty at the end of the first half) neither interception was the result of a poor throw or decision. The first came from a pass deflection from cornerback Cary Williams while the second was the result of a dropped pass from Dwayne Bowe. We’re not saying he was good by any stretch, but is a switch to Brady Quinn really going to fix the problem? Time will tell.


Game Notes

- Coming into the game completing 39% of his passes beyond 20 yards, both of Flacco’s deep passes fell incomplete.


- Sticking with the Ravens passing game, the team combined to drop four passes on Sunday – twice as many in this game that they had in their four prior games.

- Jamaal Charles’ yards per carry dropped from 6.3 in the first half to 1.5 in the second half.


Game Ball
While he wasn’t flawless, Paul Kruger stepped his play up in a big way and was played a big role in the team stopping a Chiefs running game that gashed them in the first half.
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Old 10-09-2012, 08:54 AM   #46
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How can he say neither INT was Cassel's fault? Ok, the first one to Bowe there was clear PI. However, Bowe was double-triple covered and Maneri was flying wide open with no one within 10 yards of him. Cassel never should have thrown the damn ball there in the first place.

The 2nd INT Bowe should have caught but again, it was high and slightly behind.
Exactly. Tipped balls are going to happen. When you throw into triple coverage and it's tipped the odds of the INT are much higher than when you throw into single coverage...or like you said...when the guy is WIDE F**ING OPEN!

He can't follow progressions. We all know this. He throws high and wide to his first read or he checks down. Defenses know all of this as well, and they're generating turnovers because of it.
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Old 10-09-2012, 08:58 AM   #47
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Wrong. That was on Bowe. I hate Cassel as much as anyone, but Bowe should have made that catch. Not every pass from elite QBs are on target, and sometimes they throw high. Bowe wants to be paid like a top 5-10 receiver. A top 5-10 receiver makes that catch and so should he.
It wasn't just thrown high. It was thrown high AND behind him.
Horrible placement. Not sure how Bowe's responsible for that.
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Old 10-09-2012, 09:13 AM   #48
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It wasn't just thrown high. It was thrown high AND behind him.
Horrible placement. Not sure how Bowe's responsible for that.
This throw was not like the Moeaki INT against SD. With this throw, Bowe's hands were on it. The fact of the matter is this, Bowe wants to be paid like Fitz, he needs to play like it. Fitzgerald makes that catch as does Megatron, Andre Johnson etc..... Cassel is not a good QB and most INTs are his fault, but at some point the receivers need to be held accountable instead of blaming Cassel for every pass that is not perfect out of blind hatred for the man. This INT was on Bowe.
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Old 10-09-2012, 09:26 AM   #49
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This throw was not like the Moeaki INT against SD. With this throw, Bowe's hands were on it. The fact of the matter is this, Bowe wants to be paid like Fitz, he needs to play like it. Fitzgerald makes that catch as does Megatron, Andre Johnson etc..... Cassel is not a good QB and most INTs are his fault, but at some point the receivers need to be held accountable instead of blaming Cassel for every pass that is not perfect out of blind hatred for the man. This INT was on Bowe.
How many times does Bowe have to MAKE catches like this before people get it?

This fanbase is cursed for a reason.

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Old 10-09-2012, 09:29 AM   #50
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Brady Quinn strikes me as a guy who will go out and throw 4 picks instead of checking it down.

Different kind of suck, incoming.
Id take that ALL day over watching fetal checkdown. At least take some shots.
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Old 10-09-2012, 09:32 AM   #51
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How many times does Bowe have to MAKE catches like this before people get it?

This fanbase is cursed for a reason.

The catch would not have been a Sportscenter highlight catch. A top 5 receiver makes the catch Bowe did not make and they do it quite regularly. If he wants to get paid like one he SHOULD be expected to make that catch. This is not a defense of Cassel, but holding Bowe blameless on the INT is ridiculous.
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Old 10-09-2012, 09:39 AM   #52
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How many times does Bowe have to MAKE catches like this before people get it?

This fanbase is cursed for a reason.

The thing is, Bowe wasn't ready for that pass. That is a problem with Bowe.
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Old 10-09-2012, 09:44 AM   #53
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The catch would not have been a Sportscenter highlight catch. A top 5 receiver makes the catch Bowe did not make and they do it quite regularly. If he wants to get paid like one he SHOULD be expected to make that catch. This is not a defense of Cassel, but holding Bowe blameless on the INT is ridiculous.
Bowe is not a top 5 WR. Fact is everything goes wrong with Cassell throwing the ball.
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The catch would not have been a Sportscenter highlight catch. A top 5 receiver makes the catch Bowe did not make and they do it quite regularly. If he wants to get paid like one he SHOULD be expected to make that catch. This is not a defense of Cassel, but holding Bowe blameless on the INT is ridiculous.
Top 5 WRs drop passes like that ALL THE TIME.

Is Bowe blameless on that pass? No.

Is nitpicking Bowe for EVERY INDIVIDUAL bad play beyond the point of ridiculousness? Absolutely.

With the problems this team has, people want to micro-analyze one of the FEW GOOD players we have. Reprehensible.
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The thing is, Bowe wasn't ready for that pass. That is a problem with Bowe.
For every 1 problem with Bowe, there's a THOUSAND solutions.

Fans in other cities would LOVE to have Dwayne Bowe so don't worry, he'll be able to oblige them in the offseason.

It will be so fun watching Cassel play next year without Bowe dropping the ball all the time.
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For every 1 problem with Bowe, there's a THOUSAND solutions.

Fans in other cities would LOVE to have Dwayne Bowe so don't worry, he'll be able to oblige them in the offseason.

It will be so fun watching Cassel play next year without Bowe dropping the ball all the time.
Other than the couple of easy receptions he has dropped this season (a recurring theme, maybe) Bowe has played his best football. He is elite now because overall his play is consistent and he is beating cover regularly. I like how he slimmed down and gets some explosion out his breaks. He needs to acquire a taste for blood. He needs to make plays like this one though, got to be hungry for that ball. He does this and he is going to be among the best.
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For every 1 problem with Bowe, there's a THOUSAND solutions.

Fans in other cities would LOVE to have Dwayne Bowe so don't worry, he'll be able to oblige them in the offseason.

It will be so fun watching Cassel play next year without Bowe dropping the ball all the time.
I'm holding out hope that with a new GM that holding on to Bowe becomes a priority. Along with the same new GM hiring a decent HC.
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What's Winston's PFF rating and ranking?
He's the same player he's always been. He's a good player.

And a big, dumb jock.
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