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View Poll Results: Pick the QB you would want from each matchup.
Game 1 (Don't click this.) 2 2.13%
Troy Aikman 40 42.55%
Len Dawson 49 52.13%
Game 2 (Don't click this.) 2 2.13%
Joe Montana 88 93.62%
Kurt Warner 5 5.32%
Game 3 (Don't click this.) 2 2.13%
Brett Favre 48 51.06%
John Elway 42 44.68%
Game 4 (Don't click this.) 3 3.19%
Tom Brady 73 77.66%
Peyton Manning 16 17.02%
I still think Unitas got screwed. 9 9.57%
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Old 10-09-2012, 09:09 AM  
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You know the drill. One game to win it all. Which quarterback do you pick from each matchup?
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Old 10-09-2012, 10:27 AM   #31
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I'm shocked....pleased mind you, but shocked, at the Brady beatdown of Manning. Figured it'd be closer.

Not that I'm complaining mind you...
The 9-4 head to head stat that was all over the TV this weekend probably doesn't hurt.
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Old 10-09-2012, 10:33 AM   #32
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Old 10-09-2012, 10:34 AM   #33
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Okay. Give me the guy with arguably the greatest skill set ever.
Let me frame it this way:

Superbowl game, your choice...

P Manning or E Manning
P Manning or T Brady
P Manning or Big Ben

P Manning has a much better skillset than all of the above, but in the SB who is truly the better QB?
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Old 10-09-2012, 10:36 AM   #34
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Joe Montana
Tom Brady
John Elway
Drew Brees
Johnny Unitas

that's probably your top 5 all time right there
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Old 10-09-2012, 10:36 AM   #35
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I'm shocked....pleased mind you, but shocked, at the Brady beatdown of Manning. Figured it'd be closer.

Not that I'm complaining mind you...
Manning is Marino, the only difference is he happened to get a SB win. Both are pussies when it comes down to it. Brady, Big Ben, and E Manning have that same clutch refuse to lose mentality when it comes down to it in big games. M&M were both regular season superstars.
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Old 10-09-2012, 10:40 AM   #36
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Let me frame it this way:

Superbowl game, your choice...

P Manning or E Manning
P Manning or T Brady
P Manning or Big Ben

P Manning has a much better skillset than all of the above, but in the SB who is truly the better QB?
agree with where you're going but you missed one important fact. P Manning isn't clutch.

John Elway is. That was in my factors I listed below.
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Old 10-09-2012, 10:49 AM   #37
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Alright people, here it is. Knock it off already:

Even when Elway had the same "stacked team" and won, he still played like shit.

Read every word of this article and tell me Elway is better with a straight face:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/7...te-of-all-time

But for a quarterback it's all about one game: the Super Bowl. And obviously Elway was a stud in the big game, right? Well, let's compare Super Bowl stats between the two.

Elway: five games, 152 attempts, 76 completions, 50% completion, 1,128 yards, three touchdowns, eight interceptions, a 59.3 quarterback rating and two Super Bowl victories.
Montana: four games, 122 attempts, 83 completions, 68% completion, 1,142 yards, 11 touchdowns, zero interceptions, a 127.8 quarterback rating and four Super Bowl victories.

I could not believe it when I calculated those stats. Aside from his last game, Elway wasn't just bad in the Super Bowl, he was god-awful. Montana was just as great as Elway was awful—he shined the brightest in the big game. Montana had more touchdown passes (five) in his last Super Bowl then Elway did in all five of his. Montana never threw a pick in the Super Bowl, while Elway threw at least one in every game. Montana's completion percentage in 18 percent higher and his quarterback rating more than doubles Elway's.
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I will contend that if you take those SB head to heads of Montana v Elway that the talent levels between the teams were so great that if they swapped, you'd get the same result. 49ers win.

It is widely accepted that Jerry Rice is the greatest football player ever. Not just at his position. Ever. Honestly you have to factor this in.
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I will contend that if you take those SB head to heads of Montana v Elway that the talent levels between the teams were so great that if they swapped, you'd get the same result. 49ers win.

It is widely accepted that Jerry Rice is the greatest football player ever. Not just at his position. Ever. Honestly you have to factor this in.
Read every word of that article I posted and tell me you would still take Elway. Even when he had the talent of the 9ers teams he played like shit.
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Same could be said for you. Did you actually think about anything or reconsider your stance?
Absolutely, I do it ALL THE TIME here.

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I'll make it simple... 4-0 vs 0-4, can you honestly tell me if you had the choice of either QB to start in a SB you would take Elway? Didn't think so.
That wasn't the question. If I had a team that had already made it to the Super Bowl, I might actually start Montana.

But if I had a team that was mediocre in most aspects and I need to GET TO THE SUPER BOWL in the first place, I'd take Elway.

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Also please expand on 55-10 when they met head to head on the biggest stage with both in the prime of their careers?
It's a team game. Some of the defenses Montana had in SF were AWESOME.
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Oh, and I HATE ELWAY! I HATE HIM! He's every person I can't stand. He's the spoiled rich kid who gets whatever he wants. He's the kid who gets to start because he's the coach's son. He's the guy who gets money and fame thrown at him just because he got an early growth spurt and had a tightly wound right shoulder tendon. The only thing that he didn't get was good looks.
And there you have the REAL answer at the heart of this argument.
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Read every word of that article I posted and tell me you would still take Elway. Even when he had the talent of the 9ers teams he played like shit.
The problem is you've focused completely on the Super Bowl.

Nowhere in the original premise does Rain Man say we should limit our opinion to just Super Bowl performances.
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It's a team game. Some of the defenses Montana had in SF were AWESOME.
In the year where the 49ers beat the Broncos 55-10, the Broncos had the #1 defense in the league.
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That wasn't the question. If I had a team that had already made it to the Super Bowl, I might actually start Montana.
Re-read the OP..... you think he was referring to the 2nd preseason game?
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