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Old 01-26-2012, 08:42 AM  
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Jeff Chadiha Interviewed on 810 this morning -Interesting bits about Cassel and OC

Jeff Chadiha of ESPN was interviewed on 810 this morning and had some interesting bits about Cassel:

- He revealed that Haley told him that his father, Dick Haley (famous Steelers personnel man), upon watching Cassel practice told him "I don't think you can win with this guy"

- Was told by a source within the Chiefs that he trusts that Matt Cassel was still mistakenly calling out plays using Patriots terminology...in year two

- Was told that Weiss was not a Cassel fan at all (I know this isn't new, but yet another source confirming what we already know)

- Was informed by multiple sources around the league that the Chiefs OC job is not a prime destination because of the atmosphere created by Pioli, lack of confidence in the staying power of Romeo and the fact that Cassel is the QB

Very depressing interview....

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Old 10-10-2012, 03:13 PM   #466
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Firing Peterson in 2007 would have been premature. They were a year removed from a playoff appearance.

He fired Peterson at exactly the right time.
I disagree.

While I was and am extremely happy with the 2008 draft, I'm of the opinion that Clark should have cleaned house immediately and begun a new era. Instead, he extended the era, which IMO, has only been further extended under Pioli.

Clark's going to need to bust his ass to get this next move right.
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Old 10-10-2012, 03:20 PM   #467
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I disagree.

While I was and am extremely happy with the 2008 draft, I'm of the opinion that Clark should have cleaned house immediately and begun a new era. Instead, he extended the era, which IMO, has only been further extended under Pioli.

Clark's going to need to bust his ass to get this next move right.
I hate to agree with GoChiefs but I do.

He was 2-2 with HC's, drafted some HOF players, and there was a chance to believe in him going against the grain and hiring an offensive guy in DV.

It didn't work.

We moved on.

I honestly think when rebuilding the HC should get 3 years and the GM 4.

Well, both have happened and we're seeing the same results as the day they got here. Time for the GM to leave as well...
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Old 10-10-2012, 03:29 PM   #468
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I hate to agree with GoChiefs but I do.

He was 2-2 with HC's, drafted some HOF players, and there was a chance to believe in him going against the grain and hiring an offensive guy in DV.

It didn't work.

We moved on.

I honestly think when rebuilding the HC should get 3 years and the GM 4.

Well, both have happened and we're seeing the same results as the day they got here. Time for the GM to leave as well...
I argued with a few friends (outside of this forum) that Herm deserved to keep his job in 2008, due to the "Youth Movement" and excellent 2008 draft, in which he and Kuharich took personnel decisions from Carl.

That said, the time for Clark to cut the cord, IMO, was 2007. While CP had a phenomenal ten year run, his final ten years ruined any chance of a legacy in Kansas City.
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Old 10-10-2012, 06:15 PM   #469
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I argued with a few friends (outside of this forum) that Herm deserved to keep his job in 2008, due to the "Youth Movement" and excellent 2008 draft, in which he and Kuharich took personnel decisions from Carl.

That said, the time for Clark to cut the cord, IMO, was 2007. While CP had a phenomenal ten year run, his final ten years ruined any chance of a legacy in Kansas City.
I always hated when someone back then said we were on a youth movement. If you're on a youth movement you try to sign young players that will be your future. They got young guys that were warm bodies to fill out the roster. We had so many guys on that team that should have never been in the NFL.
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I always hated when someone back then said we were on a youth movement. If you're on a youth movement you try to sign young players that will be your future. They got young guys that were warm bodies to fill out the roster. We had so many guys on that team that should have never been in the NFL.
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Old 10-10-2012, 06:44 PM   #471
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I always hated when someone back then said we were on a youth movement. If you're on a youth movement you try to sign young players that will be your future. They got young guys that were warm bodies to fill out the roster. We had so many guys on that team that should have never been in the NFL.
Herm pushed for Croyle to start over Huard -- the wrong QB, but youth nonetheless. He cut Surtain and started Carr and Flowers as rookies. He cut Wiegmann for Niswanger (again, wrong guy, but youth nonetheless). He gave Tank and Turk a lot of playing time and played Pollard and Page over established vets like Knight and Wesley. And when everybody insisted that he wait for Branden Albert to learn the Left Tackle position, he started him right away.

It took guts for Herm to do what he did. He could have played veterans and saved his job, but he instead committed to playing youth, even if that meant losing.

Bad coach, but he put this team in a much better place.
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Pat Thomas
DuJuan Morgan
Tyrone Brackenridge
Weston Dacus
Ricardo Colclough
Will Franklin
Brian Johnston
Oliver Celestin
Tommy Jackson


There were probably more that were picked up and cut. That's just a cursory run through. We had tons of players we brought in that year.
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Pat Thomas
DuJuan Morgan
Tyrone Brackenridge
Weston Dacus
Ricardo Colclough
Will Franklin
Brian Johnston
Oliver Celestin
Tommy Jackson


There were probably more that were picked up and cut. That's just a cursory run through. We had tons of players we brought in that year.
I think you're being a little critical if we're going to get upset over those players, mostly late round picks and bargain basement guys, not panning out.

The youth movement had some failures like Niswanger and Croyle. It also got Albert, Flowers, Carr, and others quality "young guy" reps. Most importantly, it cleaned up the cap and set the table for a GM to be successful.

Herm helped KC immensely. Even if you don't like him as a coach.
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Pat Thomas
DuJuan Morgan
Tyrone Brackenridge
Weston Dacus
Ricardo Colclough
Will Franklin
Brian Johnston
Oliver Celestin
Tommy Jackson


There were probably more that were picked up and cut. That's just a cursory run through. We had tons of players we brought in that year.
JFC.

DaJuan Morgan was a third round draft choice in 2008. Franklin was a 4th, Johnston a 6th. Are you telling me that they should have been cut in training camp?



Brackenridge was signed in 2006 and Dacus in 2007. You know, special teamers and developmental players. Every team needs them.

Colclough was a former starter for the Steelers, Browns and Panthers. He was far from "young" during his 2008 stint.

You're going to need to better than this to prove your point.
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