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Old 10-09-2012, 04:05 PM  
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Soren Petro-Rumor Pioli has signed an extension

Rumor has it, ( via Soren Petro ) that Scott Pioli has signed an extension.
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Old 10-11-2012, 04:29 PM   #421
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Great prospects will develop into great players, despite whatever coaching is there.

You think the many, many OC's Cassel has had have failed to teach Cassel how to go through his progressions?

Or do you think that Cassel simply isn't talented enough to do it, despite being taught?

What great QB did the Colts staff "create"? Outside of Manning, If you want to credit them for that, no one.

Patriots?

Niners?

How long did it take the Steelers to find one?

Saints?

The QB either has greatness in him, or he doesn't. He'll either figure it out, or he won't.

I assure you, Tony Dungy didn't "develop" Peyton Manning.
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Old 10-11-2012, 04:29 PM   #422
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I don't really care. Coaching makes the team, but it rarely can account for deficiencies in the player. Unless you're Jim Harbaugh, the QB that gets drafted is either going to be really good or really terrible.
This.

Great QB's carry shit HC's all the damn time.

I can't really recall seeing the opposite.

I can't wait till Brady retires. I wanna see how good Belichick REALLY is.
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Old 10-11-2012, 04:30 PM   #423
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This.

Great QB's carry shit HC's all the damn time.

I can't really recall seeing the opposite.

I can't wait till Brady retires. I wanna see how good Belichick REALLY is.
He is smart. He will retire, and later come back as a GM or President of football operation somewhere else.
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Old 10-11-2012, 04:31 PM   #424
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I've never heard of a GM keeping his job after a team going 2-14 so i'm doubting anything has been signed just yet.
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Old 10-11-2012, 04:31 PM   #425
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This is like the business decision version of DT dying via car accident.

The franchise is lying in a hospital waiting for the blood clot.

Candlelight vigil for our Chiefs?

I'm in on the vigil, but I'm going to keep pushing for a funeral.
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Old 10-11-2012, 04:31 PM   #426
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Yeah, if this happens our only hope is a monumentally amazing QB comes along and saves us.

We need QB Jesus to save us from GM Satan.
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Old 10-11-2012, 04:37 PM   #427
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Yeah, if this happens our only hope is a monumentally amazing QB comes along and saves us.

We need QB Jesus to save us from GM Satan.
So we have to trade for Tebow?
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Old 10-11-2012, 04:40 PM   #428
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Guys, you can inhale from the magic bong all you want, but Peyton Mannings don't come along very often.

What is far more common is a situation in which a young quarterback has to be developed ... acclimated ... for awhile. How many times have we seen quarterbacks with high potential eventually bust because they were improperly handled in the beginning?

Sure, it's possible that you can strike gold with a rookie QB who requires no coaching or mentoring or assistance in making the adjustment to the NFL, but ... wow ... unlikely would be an understatement.

Let's be realistic for a moment. It makes far more sense to install a coach who can help a young guy develop ... regardless of his initial talent level or skill ... than simply hope that we hit on a Manning.

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Old 10-11-2012, 04:41 PM   #429
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Is Pioli Clark's Cassel?

Perhaps there's some degree of ego in this.

Clark doesn't want to be wrong about Pioli.
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Old 10-11-2012, 04:44 PM   #430
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This.

Great QB's carry shit HC's all the damn time.

I can't really recall seeing the opposite.

I can't wait till Brady retires. I wanna see how good Belichick REALLY is.
Harbaugh and Smith is the only example that comes to mind, really.

Some people might make the case of Andy Reid, but even then that's not really all that strong of an example.

And agreed about the Patriots. Bill is starting to look a bit old and crusty. He's put in a lot of years as an HC. I'm wondering if he doesn't just close up shop when Brady retires. I would hate that because I wouldn't get to see how he would do without his precious. Something tells me Ryan Mallett isn't a good long term answer for the team at all.
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Old 10-11-2012, 04:48 PM   #432
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Is Pioli Clark's Cassel?

Perhaps there's some degree of ego in this.

Clark doesn't want to be wrong about Pioli.
How do we know Clark isn't just trying to walk in the path of his father? Lamar put up with all kinds of bullshit for YEARS with this front office. I think we as fans tend to give Lamar the benefit of the doubt, though. He was the team's founder and really awesome to the fans for the entire run.

What's the difference between him and Clark? Is Clark just a cheapass because he doesn't live in Kansas City and hardly ever interacts with the team or community? Or is he loyal to a fault like his father was to Jack Steadman and Carl Peterson?
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Old 10-11-2012, 04:49 PM   #433
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Guys, you can inhale from the magic bong all you want, but Peyton Mannings don't come along very often.

What is far more common is a situation in which a young quarterback has to be developed ... acclimated ... for awhile. How many times have we seen quarterbacks with high potential eventually bust because they were improperly handled in the beginning?

Sure, it's possible that you can strike gold with a rookie QB who requires no coaching or mentoring or assistance in making the adjustment to the NFL, but ... wow ... unlikely would be an understatement.

Let's be realistic for a moment. It makes far more sense to install a coach who can help a young guy develop ... regardless of his initial talent level or skill ... than simply hope that we hit on a Manning.

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No one is saying they require no coaching.

Let me put it like this:

Some students have a hard time understanding Algebra.

You can explain an equation to Matt over, and over and over again. His tutor can explain it over, and over and over again.

And on Test day, Matt still hasn't figured it out.

Now, that same teacher can explain that algebra problem to Andrew just once, and Andrew has it down. Now, over the course of the next 16 tests, new formulas will have to be explained, but it won't take long for Andrew to figure them out, he'll just need some practice since these tests are constantly throwing new and exotic equations at him.

Eventually, because of Andrews acute ability to solve math problems, he'll get it all down.

Matt on the other hand.....well....16 tests into the course, and he's still struggling with that first equation.

We need an Andrew.

Not a Matt.

And there are plenty of Andrews in the NFL. There might be only one Peyton, but plenty of Andrews.
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Old 10-11-2012, 04:58 PM   #434
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how can you fail at everything and be rewarded?

you save money for a cheap ass bastard like Clark who only cares about money...shove your cash cap up your ass

he hired two failed coaches
the staff is comprised of losers
he wasted 4 years on Matt Cassel
after 4 years, our QB roster reads like a sick joke: Cassel, Quinn, Panzi
Tyson Jackson
he hates the fans...this can not be said enough - HE HATES THE FANS
clark has sanctioned pioli's hatred of us by re-signing him
the fans hate this ****ing shit eating franchise because of scott pioli
no one with an ounce of pride will work for a micro-managing, arrogant, prick failure
our team blows yaks

just like the acquisition of Cassel meant that the next 4 years were over before they happened, the re-signing of pioli means the same...whatever the length of his contract, that is already a period of failure for the chiefs

jesus this is depressing...we are ****ed in the ass
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This is crap. Absolute crap.

Remember the conversation about how people should just go tailgate out at the stadium but not go in to go watch the game? Bully idea. That will be my stance with these pissants until Pioli and his guys are out the front door.
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