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Old 10-13-2012, 02:09 PM  
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Clark caught between a rock and a hard place
Clark is in a Catch-22. If he lets Pioli go now, there will be the perception among the fans, owners, and the NFL in general that he doesn't really make the decisions around here- he will be percieved as beeing subject to the whims of the fans. On the other hand, if he doesn't let Pioli go, he will have totally alienated the entire fan base who makes his team profitable (outside of TV revenues). The Chiefs have made one PR blunder after another this year and fans are on the verge of outright revolt.

In all seriousness, if you are Clark- and view this purely as a business decision- what is your next move?
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Old 10-13-2012, 02:47 PM   #16
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I can't imagine any scenario ever, that I would want Pioli drafting our QOF.
I could go on a glue sniffing binge and make better decisions than that oaf.
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Old 10-13-2012, 02:48 PM   #17
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Chiefzilla nailed it. Pioli is the cancer of the Chiefs. He must go.
based on what?

the rambling bullshit of Bad Guy's janitor friend who got pissed off because Pioli made him pick up a gum wrapper?

please ... WE KNOW NOTHING concrete about what is going on in Arrowhead.

people around here have just gone paranoid nuts
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Old 10-13-2012, 02:50 PM   #18
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all made-up, tinfoil hat bullshit

There isn't any evident to backup the Dr. Evil/Pioli bullshit ... it's just crazy fans who have talked themselves into believe shit because they are pissed.
Why has nearly every single hire been guys he's worked with previously? We won't get new blood in here unless they are ok with being micro-managed. You're in denial about Pioli.
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Old 10-13-2012, 02:51 PM   #19
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based on what?

the rambling bullshit of Bad Guy's janitor friend who got pissed off because Pioli made him pick up a gum wrapper?

please ... WE KNOW NOTHING concrete about what is going on in Arrowhead.

people around here have just gone paranoid nuts
Head in the sand.
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Old 10-13-2012, 02:54 PM   #20
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I don't see it as a Catch-22. Just because the fans seem to want it doesn't mean its not the right decision. It also doesn't mean he was pushed into it by the fans. He's doing a good job or he's not doing a good job. Frankly if I'm an owner and have to come out and make a statement about the fans because the GM is quiet, he's not doing his job.
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Old 10-13-2012, 02:58 PM   #21
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If he lets Pioli go now, there will be the perception among the fans, owners, and the NFL in general that he doesn't really make the decisions around here- he will be percieved as beeing subject to the whims of the fans.
Who gives a shit?

Ford in Detroit is viewed as a piece of shit owner because he didn't listen to the fans earlier and fire Matt Millen.

Clark has to get fans buying into the team. Pioli tightens the belt better than most GMs, but you gotta have increased income. Only way to do that is to fire Pioli.
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Old 10-13-2012, 03:14 PM   #22
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Why has nearly every single hire been guys he's worked with previously? We won't get new blood in here unless they are ok with being micro-managed. You're in denial about Pioli.
ALL coaches tend to hire people they know or have worked with before.

it's just been turned into some twisted conspiracy around here.
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Old 10-13-2012, 03:15 PM   #23
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Head in the sand.
still waiting for any proof
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Old 10-13-2012, 03:15 PM   #24
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ALL coaches tend to hire people they know or have worked with before.

it's just been turned into some twisted conspiracy around here.
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Old 10-13-2012, 03:17 PM   #25
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Who gives a shit?

Ford in Detroit is viewed as a piece of shit owner because he didn't listen to the fans earlier and fire Matt Millen.

Clark has to get fans buying into the team. Pioli tightens the belt better than most GMs, but you gotta have increased income. Only way to do that is to fire Pioli.
Hunt could definitely make a business decision and decide that Pioli has to go for money reasons.

not really winning reasons ... but money reasons

could see that happening

but you blow it up and that means all the coaches go ... all the schemes go and then 2 years of transition. All the current young talent might as well be traded away because they either won't fit the scheme or will be free agents by the time the transition is over.
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Old 10-13-2012, 03:18 PM   #26
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so you're saying that guys in the NFL DON'T tend to hire guys they have previously worked with?

You're lying or just making shit up now
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so you're saying that coaches DON'T tend to hire guys they have previously worked with?

You're lying or just making shit up now
No. I'm not going to argue with you about this. Anyone who still believes in Pioli....

Has their
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but you blow it up and that means all the coaches go ... all the schemes go and then 2 years of transition. All the current young talent might as well be traded away because they either won't fit the scheme or will be free agents by the time the transition is over.
That's fine.

Current regime isn't doing shit, so you might as well.

****ing cut bait, Laz. Pioli is an epic failure. Admit it.
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No. I'm not going to argue with you about this. Anyone who still believes in Pioli....

Has their
it's not about still believing in Pioli, it's about reality



so you have nothing other than the rumor mongering bullshit that flies around this place?
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Hunt could definitely make a business decision and decide that Pioli has to go for money reasons.

not really winning reasons ... but money reasons

could see that happening

but you blow it up and that means all the coaches go ... all the schemes go and then 2 years of transition. All the current young talent might as well be traded away because they either won't fit the scheme or will be free agents by the time the transition is over.
Houston changed their scheme in one offseason and hit the ground rolling.
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