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Old 10-16-2012, 07:00 AM  
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Tyler Palko Explained (Haley Wanted Hasselbeck)
Kevin Harlan was just on 810 and said a Titans scout told him that Todd Haley wanted to go after Matt Hasselbeck before last season and was told no by PioLLLLLi. Thus that's why we were stuck with Palko and likely didn't win the division last year.

Another strike against PioLLLLLi.
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Old 10-16-2012, 07:02 PM   #166
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Weis wanted Clausen? I hadn't heard about that. I also hadn't heard about Romeo wanting Orton. And I only read today about Haley wanting Hasselbeck.

Am I out of touch?
I hadn't heard that, either. Maybe he means Weis wanted Cuisant ... the jelly kind.

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Old 10-16-2012, 07:03 PM   #167
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No, it wasn't.

It was sheer luck that Cassel was worth half a shit and studied his flash cards hard enough that he could hit eleventy passes to Wes Welker, check it down to Kevin Faulk while hitting Moss deep 1/10 times.

Any Asshole could have done what Casshole did that year.
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Old 10-16-2012, 07:08 PM   #168
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Weis wanted Clausen? I hadn't heard about that. I also hadn't heard about Romeo wanting Orton. And I only read today about Haley wanting Hasselbeck.

Am I out of touch?
Weis put in glowing recommendations for Clausen and backed out of orchestrating his pro day because it was a conflict of interest. Couple that with the rumor from a credible insider that he didn/t like Cassel. Where there's smoke there's fire. I think it was pretty obvious he wanted Clausen.

Romeo said multiple times in the offseason he wanted competition at QB. He always spoke very highly of Orton. It's not hard to connect the dots here.

Romeo Crennel then designed an offense a few games ago where they took the QB completely out of the game. What does that say about his confidence in the QB?

Haley wanted Hasselbeck, as claimed by Kevin Harlan, a credible source.

Haley's dad didn't want Cassel.

Add in that Babb said directly that Pioli micromanaged roster decisions.

It's pretty clear Pioli has dictated the choice at QB against the will of his head coaches.
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Old 10-16-2012, 07:40 PM   #169
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Weis put in glowing recommendations for Clausen and backed out of orchestrating his pro day because it was a conflict of interest. Couple that with the rumor from a credible insider that he didn/t like Cassel. Where there's smoke there's fire. I think it was pretty obvious he wanted Clausen.

Romeo said multiple times in the offseason he wanted competition at QB. He always spoke very highly of Orton. It's not hard to connect the dots here.

Romeo Crennel then designed an offense a few games ago where they took the QB completely out of the game. What does that say about his confidence in the QB?

Haley wanted Hasselbeck, as claimed by Kevin Harlan, a credible source.

Haley's dad didn't want Cassel.

Add in that Babb said directly that Pioli micromanaged roster decisions.

It's pretty clear Pioli has dictated the choice at QB against the will of his head coaches.
Weis and Crennel came here KNOWING what was wanted of them. I don't feel sorry for either of those lackey mother ****ers.
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Old 10-16-2012, 09:11 PM   #170
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Haley was hired because he was a 1st time head coach and would be a yes man for Pioli
Or so the Don thought.
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Old 10-16-2012, 11:59 PM   #171
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I don't think Haley was a "leader of men" and many of his tactics left a lot to be desired. You could probably mask a lot of that with a good QB, but I don't think players were excited to play for him or come here in free agency if they had options.

That said, he was a far better coach than we have now, because he at least was able to focus on the team once he actually hired an OC, and was able to scare guys into being afraid of fumbling and throwing picks, which is what you are left with when your team ain't that good...
Steve Breaston took a pay cut to be reunited with Haley in KC "for the good of his career." He knew Haley could 'be a butthole' is what he said on the radio...but I think he also wants to be great.

I also suspect he may have got mighty pissed for a min when there was talk of Haley going back to ARZ this offseason...

Well, Breaston is probably really pissed, anyway.
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Old 10-17-2012, 12:02 AM   #172
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Old 10-17-2012, 12:03 AM   #173
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I'm just glad he's gone. He was a bad HC and none of this really matters. Any coach who did what he did last year would have gotten fired before the end of the year. He really bombed big time.


Dude, you really don't make much sense.
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It is interesting to think how Hasselbeck would have performed with this team. Similar to Orton however the adjustment period from going from a WCO his whole career to our Erdhart/Perkins system could have been difficult.

Overall, Hasselbeck would have been a significant upgrade over CasseLLLL, IMO and probably had the potential to be better than Orton once he understood our system.
Um, Orton's OC in Chicago was Ron Turner, Norv's brother, and they are Coryell disciples by way of Ernie Zampese.

He's been in the Perkins-Erhardt since he went to Denver, as that's what both McDaniels and Fox run. I would assume Garret's offense is P-E as well, as that's what he's coached all his career with Chan Gailey/Dave Campo and Parcells/Sean Payton/Haley/etc. even though in his playing days, Nkrv was his OC.

Anyway, Hasselbeck's a pro that would've allowed the team to operate until we got a young QB together (alá Chris Chandler/Steve McNair or Brett Favre/Aaron Rodgers l...though Favre/Rodgers is a bit different situation.)

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Well, Breaston is probably really pissed, anyway.
He and Bowe will both be gone.

Bowe will go to the highest payer and Breaston will just get released the second he mentions a holdout...
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I am no longer, I admit I was wrong based solely upon the Palko decision. I can actually see a scenario where Haley could have been great, oh well no point in waxing on about it.
Oh no, please wax on it some more.

I want to hear from all the Haley haters as to why he got this shit bag team to 10 wins and the play offs and now we are sitting at 1-5 with an even better roster.

Like the guy had a choice with Palko. That's the only choice he had at that point. Because the GM deemed it so.

It's nice to see that no one around here will munch on crow because they bought into the Pioli brilliance and couldn't see anything else other than the light at the end of all things brought about by the Patriot Way.

**** Haley. He was a psycho.

Though he got DJ and Bowe to show up finally and got the Chiefs to the playoffs...

****ing Pioli ballwashers.
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Oh no, please wax on it some more.

I want to hear from all the Haley haters as to why he got this shit bag team to 10 wins and the play offs and now we are sitting at 1-5 with an even better roster.
Romeo and Weis...
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hmmmm

I think it could possibly be deeper that that. How could a man like that be in such a position? An NFL GM is a pretty hard job to get. It is too strange that if coaches and millions of fans are calling for CasseLLLL's benching for years and PioLLLLLi's ego is the only thing in the way? It doesn't really add up. If that's the case, CLLLLLark Hunt should have balled up and fired him on the spot. I think it goes deeper than that.
It's not deeper.

It's complete nepotism and a desire to win based on previous success of a winning regime.

How many guys off that Tampa Bay Super Bowl win got jobs?

A shit ton.

How many have proven to suck?

A shit ton.

How many guys from New England are still getting jobs even though they continue to prove to suck big time?

A shit ton.

Even though the money is huge, most football franchises are small businesses. There really isn't a lot of employees directly related to each franchise. Owners are usually mega-rich hobbyists that don't have a ****ing clue about the game or running a team. They just hire the sub-guys from a recently winning system and hope to recreate that system in their own franchise.

Thus we end up with Herm and Romeo. And Daboll. And Cassel. And, to the biggest FAIL degree, Pioli.

****ing frauds, one and all.

Clark needs to pull his head out of his entitled ass and set up a brain trust to pick a new regime based on innovation and desire and determination. The ****ing NFL tree, as it stands, needs to be chopped the **** down.

Purge this ****ing franchise from top to bottom.

New blood. New ideas.

It's the 21st Century. Let's bring this 1960's franchise into the modern era - finally.
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