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Old 09-18-2012, 09:07 AM  
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Geno Smith fans roll call

NEW THREAD HEADER (11/17/12):

The list is gone. We will all be Geno Smith fans when he gets drafted by the Chiefs. For historical documentation's sake, I'll keep the list in a separate post on this thread: http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=3314

WHY GENO SMITH?
If you're wondering if Geno Smith is right for you, check out this brilliant post by Saccopoo:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=5388

Next, we have a few GIFs you may be interested in from the Oklahoma game. Insane potential. These are the elite throws that very few QBs can make. What more can I say? Geno Smith can be a franchise QB in the NFL, and the Chiefs need to take a shot on him.

GIF #1:
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GIF #2:
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GIF #3 (My favorite):
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HOW DO WE GET HIM HERE?

Glad you asked. I posted this checklist earlier. It probably belongs in the thread header, and will be updated as the Chiefs close out their season and start a new chapter in their franchise story.

Preparing for Geno Smith's Arrival In KC Checklist

1. [X] Lose games and acquire the #1 overall pick
2. [X] Get Pioli and the Patriot Way cronies the **** out
3. [X] Hire new GM/coach

OPTIONAL (but highly recommended):
4. [ ] Re-sign/tag Bowe, who really wants to play in KC with Geno
5. [ ] Re-sign/tag Albert

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Old 10-16-2012, 10:51 PM   #1591
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Hey asshole. The whole SaveourChiefs movement has over 76k followers on twitter. That's more than attended the opening home game of the season when optimism is high.

It's funny how much of a hypocrite you are. First, you don't want to be lumped in with the upset fans who want change, but then you want to cast a pretty wide net and say that most Chiefs fans hate Whitlock.

The only reason you would hate Jason Whitlock is because he wrote the truth about this whole franchise 3 years ago and no one wanted to listen.

Fans like you deserve 7-9 seasons with defensive lineman selected in every round of the draft.


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Old 10-16-2012, 10:53 PM   #1592
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Old 10-16-2012, 10:54 PM   #1593
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Old 10-17-2012, 05:45 AM   #1594
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Ummm...how about the 2012 Orange Bowl where West Virginia rang up 70 points on the #13 ranked Clemson Tigers?

Geno was 31 of 42 for 401 yards (eclipsed Tom Brady's Orange Bowl yardage record) and six TD's in that one (another Orange Bowl record).


Oh yes, the defensive powerhouse of Clemson. Ranked 64th (not quite in the upper half of the FBS) at 26.2 points per game and 379.4 yards per game.
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So if the barometer is he hasn't played anyone, did RGIII play anyone last year?
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So if the barometer is he hasn't played anyone, did RGIII play anyone last year?
A couple of games.

Why are people so defensive about having an open discussion about a player? Level of competition is an issue facing Smith. He'll have a few more games this year against good D's so he can step up or slide down.
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Old 10-17-2012, 06:18 AM   #1597
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Wonder what everyones opinion will be if KSU beats them this weekend.
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So if the barometer is he hasn't played anyone, did RGIII play anyone last year?
TCU 30th
Oklahoma 40th
Texas 45th
Missouri 47th

Not great defenses but tougher than what Geno has been facing so far. The next five games for Geno will tell a lot about him. With the exception of Oklahoma State the upcoming defenses are ranked in the top 25. If he does well I will definitely change my mind about him.
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Hey asshole. The whole SaveourChiefs movement has over 76k followers on twitter. That's more than attended the opening home game of the season when optimism is high.

It's funny how much of a hypocrite you are. First, you don't want to be lumped in with the upset fans who want change, but then you want to cast a pretty wide net and say that most Chiefs fans hate Whitlock.

The only reason you would hate Jason Whitlock is because he wrote the truth about this whole franchise 3 years ago and no one wanted to listen.

Fans like you deserve 7-9 seasons with defensive lineman selected in every round of the draft.
I support SaveourChiefs. They have one agenda and represent the entire fan base.

Look at yourselves guys. The night before the Baltimore game, there was a thread here about people hoping Cassel got hurt. We all know what happened that Sunday. Do you understand how this looks?

All I am saying is if you are going to fly banners and stuff like that, just put from Chiefs Planet on it because you don't represent the entire fanbase.

Not everyone here is bad but, there are alot of bad apples in the bunch. I just don't want to sit by and watch them ruin it for everyone. I feel like alot of damage has already been done.
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I support SaveourChiefs.
No you ****ing don't. You're a Cassel apologist and a pussy. Saveourchiefs is for the fans who don't care about the brainless jocks on ESPN who don't do any ****ing reporting. Not one of them even watched the tape or collected information before opening their mouths and releasing vomity diarrhea onto the screen about how Chiefs fans supposedly misbehaved.

If you don't support the banners speaking for ALL Chiefs fans, then you don't support the movement you dipshit.
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No you ****ing don't. You're a Cassel apologist and a pussy. Saveourchiefs is for the fans who don't care about the brainless jocks on ESPN who don't do any ****ing reporting. Not one of them even watched the tape or collected information before opening their mouths and releasing vomity diarrhea onto the screen about how Chiefs fans supposedly misbehaved.

If you don't support the banners speaking for ALL Chiefs fans, then you don't support the movement you dipshit.
You don't even know me. Guys like you are the problem. You just spout off without thinking. Your heart is in the right place but your brain is not.
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You don't even know me. Guys like you are the problem. You just spout off without thinking. Your heart is in the right place but your brain is not.
Here's a simple flow chart for you to follow:

Do you support the "FIRE PIOLI BENCH CASSEL" banners?

If yes, then you support the Saveourchiefs movement.

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I support SaveourChiefs. They have one agenda and represent the entire fan base.

Look at yourselves guys. The night before the Baltimore game, there was a thread here about people hoping Cassel got hurt. We all know what happened that Sunday. Do you understand how this looks?

All I am saying is if you are going to fly banners and stuff like that, just put from Chiefs Planet on it because you don't represent the entire fanbase.

Not everyone here is bad but, there are alot of bad apples in the bunch. I just don't want to sit by and watch them ruin it for everyone. I feel like alot of damage has already been done.
What exactly are they ruining? There's a few asshole fans in every single fan base. I don't wish injury on Cassel, but now that it happened, I hope he never sees the field here.

Let's also get in touch with reality. The guy made over 50 million dollars here. It's not like they were booing the kid who got hurt in the punt pass or kick competition at halftime.

A lot of damage has already been done by this asshole GM and clueless HC. We are far more of a laughing stock because of their actions than a bunch of fans cheering Matt Cassel's injury.
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Before I started watching cut-ups of Geno Smith, I had an image in my mind of what kind of quarterback he would be. I had heard about all the amazing things he'd been doing, seen the numbers, read the reports. But I hadn't actually had the opportunity to see him actually throw a pass. Most of the reports I had seen compared him to ex-Baylor and current Washington Redskins quarterback, Robert Griffin III. I can safely say, having watched cut-ups of him against Maryland and Baylor, he is not Robert Griffin III. Nor is he Cam Newton. He's really not that much of a runner from what I saw. The guy that I kept thinking of while watching Smith was Ben Roethlisberger. But we'll come back to that later on.

While he's not RG3 or Newton, Smith is obviously a very good quarterback in his own right. He displays a lot of the tools desired in a franchise signal-caller. One of those tools is accuracy. The first stat that jumps off the paper when you look at it is his accuracy. He's currently averaging 75.3% completion rate, but before this past weekend's loss to Texas Tech, he was in the low 80's range. While those statistics are somewhat inflated due to the number of screens and short passes within five yards that are thrown in this offense, he's still an accurate quarterback.

Part of what makes him so accurate is his anticipation. Take a look at this play.



Smith knew that his receiver was cutting in on the post across the face of the defender into open field. He has the confidence to put that ball out there and trust that his receiver will go and get it.



Smith locates the ball a little out in front of the receiver, forcing him to stretch out and dive for the play. That's a pass that only his receiver could make a play on. The covering defender had no angle to make a play on the ball; and because the receiver has to reach out for the ball, the defender can only get to the ball by going through the receiver and causing interference. Geno is right on the money there.

We also saw an ability to take a little something off of his throws when he needed to.



West Virginia have Baylor backed up in their own red zone. They call for a fade at the top of the picture,



Smith once again puts the ball where only his receiver can get it. He lofts it over the outstretched arms of the defensive back and hits his receiver at the back pylon of the end zone. The timing and accuracy of the throw are perfect, allowing his receiver to secure the football and get both feet down in-bounds.

But don't think Smith is just a touch passer. He can gun one deep when the time calls for it.



Smith throws the ball from his own 42 yard line.



About 45 yards downfield, the receiver runs under the ball and catches it in stride. Smith made the pass look effortless while putting the perfect amount of air under it to allow his receiver to run under it in stride. The defensive back can't do anything about the throw, it's too good.

The only problem I had with his accuracy over the two games I watched, was that Smith attempted to fit the ball into windows that weren't really there. It wasn't a frequent occurrence but it felt like from time to time, he'd back his accuracy a bit too much and often it wasn't needed.



You can see that Smith has plenty of time in the pocket.



And yet, Smith tries to fit a ball to a receiver that is bracketed by a corner and safety. The ball hits the corner in the back, but Smith is lucky the corner wasn't watching the pass because it could have been an interception. There was no need to throw that ball, Smith had all the time in the world with the pocket he was given. Smith can't afford to try and force the issue in the NFL, where that ball would probably have been picked.

Now I mentioned earlier that Smith isn't RG3 or Cam Newton, but reminded me more of Ben Roethlisberger. In these two games that I saw, Smith rarely scrambled or ran a quarterback keeper unless he had to. His obvious preference was to stand in the pocket and use his elusiveness to create more time in the pocket and extend plays. Just like we see Big Ben do every Sunday for the Pittsburgh Steelers.



The defense gets a free rusher onto Smith here. But Geno saw him coming early and forced the tackle attempt to come from a bad angle. The defenders hands are around Smith's head height, allowing Smith to evade his grasp and slip out to the side.



All the defender can do is latch on to Geno's helmet as his momentum takes him past Smith.



With his helmet ripped off, Smith makes a wise decision to live and fight another day. He throws the ball away out the back of the end zone before he takes another hit.

That kind of ability to elude tackles is something quite rare in quarterbacks. We've seen guys like Big Ben with players hanging off of him as he breaks free and gets a throw off, but there just isn't many guys around that can do it.

Here's another example of him avoiding a rush, but staying in the pocket to keep the play alive.



Geno spot's the rusher coming free and steps up in the pocket.



He wisely tucks the ball to keep it protected from the outstretched arm of the rusher.



Smith finds his way to a gap in the pocket, keeping his eyes downfield. He manages to get off an accurate throw, even at such an awkward angle, at the last second before another rusher gets a hit on him. The ball was eventually dropped by the receiver, but it was definitely catchable.

That about wraps up my thoughts on what I saw from Smith against both Maryland and Baylor. I still think it's too early for me to call him a top five or top ten pick. From what I've seen, he definitely has first round potential, but until I have a chance to evaluate the other quarterbacks and players in this class, I wouldn't want to call anyone a top five pick.

What do you think about Geno Smith? Is he the next number one overall pick, or is he overrated. Let me know your thoughts in the comments section below.
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