NFL Draft Peter King: Scouts not impressed with 2013 QB class - Page 10

Quesadilla Joe · 11-02-2012, 03:10 AM

Bad year to pick a QB 1, 2 or 3. QBs sinking like stones in eyes of NFL scouts.

https://twitter.com/SI_PeterKing/sta...03092294238208

Cannibal · 11-02-2012, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Whitlockbabymomma

Wow, we can't even get the timing of suck right.

You're a total bitch, but you're right about this.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-02-2012, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannibal

You're a total bitch, but you're right about this.

No, she is not.

Pasta Little Brioni · 11-02-2012, 07:27 PM

Scouts: Not impressed with Denver's performance against actual teams this year

KCFaninSEA · 11-02-2012, 08:55 PM

The defensive scheme, draft picks, free agents and returning players will all be determined by who ever is running the franchise. It won't be the same people as this year so any number of things could happen. Who ever is running the show will give us "he fits our scheme" speeches letting us know that this QB or that is better for their "system". Anything and everything should happen between now and next September. If nothing else it will be interesting.

**BigMeatballDave** · 11-02-2012, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

No, she is not.

No a bitch, or about this?

JohnnyHammersticks · 11-02-2012, 09:44 PM

Why all this commotion about drafting a QB? We need depth at guard and a few more 4-3 defensive tackles to plug in at the 5 technique. Plus, we need more hybrid 3rd-down RB/Slot Receivers-- championship teams can never have too many of them. Just be patient, and in a few years, some has-been like Michael Vick or Tony Romo will be available and we'll finally have some good competition for Matt.

Regards, S.P.

jspchief · 11-02-2012, 09:45 PM

Tough break if true that none of these guys are any good (unlikely).

A team has 2 choices. Take the best guy they can get with the pick they have, or do everything it takes to get the guy they want in the year he comes along. You can't sit back and hope that your team happens to be the worst in the league the year Manning or Luck comes out.

Titty Meat · 11-02-2012, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I know that Routt sucks ass but I'm not so sure the Chiefs will get a 3rd for Carr. Hope, but uncertain.

They will. Routt wasn't a free agent he was released by his team same with Winston.

Tombstone RJ · 11-02-2012, 10:17 PM

The reality is kc doesn't have the luxury of NOT drafting a QB high in the first round. I'm literally

because I told you clowns this before!!

go ahead, search for my posts where I told you that passing on a QB like Nick Foles in the mid rounds was idiotic! Stupid. Why--because now your team will be forced to take a MUCH BIGGER chance on a high first round QB.

I would wish you all "good luck" on drafting a QB, but since you all are pretty much completely jaded in your ability to listen to any reason (and because you are rival fans), I'm wishing you all get exactly what YOU want:

A #1 QB pick, the first pick taken in the first round of the 2013 class.

Saccopoo · 11-02-2012, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Woodsponge Chuckpants

Murray chokes in big games and withers when UGA gets behind. He is a poor leader and we don't want him. I am as much of a UGA fan as I am a Chiefs fan. I have seen every play he has ever made on the field.

In no way is that what I was saying buddy boy. We have to draft a QB. I would like to move back into the first round and get one. However, taking a QB with the #1 pick this yer seems pretty stupid to me at this point. We should probably take Jarvis Jones or trade back if we can.

Saccopoo · 11-02-2012, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

Your comment could have easily been used when discussing Aaron Rodgers heading into the 2005 draft.

The reality is that QB is the hardest position to pick, and the analysts will only say a QB is elite if he fits their prototype mold of big size, rocket arm, amazing accuracy, big winner in college, experience in pro-style offense, multiple years as a starter, etc.

Weird...

That sounds just like Geno Smith.

Tombstone RJ · 11-02-2012, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Weird...

That sounds just like Geno Smith.

What big games has Geno Smith won?

my bad, he won the Orange Bowl. Anyway, put all your eggs in the Geno Smith basket, why not? You gotta start somewhere...

Saccopoo · 11-02-2012, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Hmmmm....

Big size: 6'3'', 214 seems pretty big.
Rocket arm: Ever see the velocity on Geno's ball?
Amazing accuracy: Well his accuracy's gone up every year, at 75% this season.
Big winner in college: 9-4 as a Soph Starter, 10-3 as a JR and Orange Bowl mvp. Does that count?
Experience in a pro-style offense: It doesn't get much more pro-style than the Bill Stewart/Jeff Mullen offense he ran as a soph when he completed nearly 2/3 of his passes and had better than a 3-1 TD/INT ratio.
Multiple years as a starter: Is 3 okay?

Scouts don't like Geno Smith because scouts never like Senior quarterbacks unless they do crazy shit like run 4.40 40s. Geno Smith is what you're looking for in an NFL quarterback. He's excelled over a long period. He's excelled in different systems. He has the size and skills to excel and even brings some bonus tools like his quick release to the party (so that shouldn't need to be tinkered with).

You'll need to work on his feet a little, they can be inconsistent. You'll also want to work on his reads, as is the case with any QB that wasn't Andrew Luck. In the end, if the Chiefs pass on this kid they will regret it for a very long time.

And Geno has put on weight this year. He's around 225 currently.

CaliforniaChief · 11-02-2012, 10:40 PM

Read this article about Geno. It shows the character of a man when he's struggling. Make particular notes of the following and ask yourself if he would grade himself out perfectly:

"Holgorsen reiterated this week that Smith took too much blame for the 55-14 loss to Kansas State, one of the worst home losses in school history.

''He needs to handle the loss a little bit better,'' Holgorsen said. ''There are a whole bunch of people that play in the game, and coaches that are involved in the game. So there are a whole lot of people that can accept responsibility for the game, whether it's good or bad. He's not responsible for a loss.''

But Spavital pointed out Smith is quick to fall on the sword after a loss because it comes natural.

''That's just him,'' Spavital said. ''He's the quarterback, and he has that whole persona of 'If I lose, I'll take all the blame.'''

'Dana knows that I'm my own biggest critic and I'm always going to be hard on myself,'' Smith said. ''I think he understands that it's just my competitive nature and I'm never going to be hard on myself to the point where I would lose confidence.

''No one man can win or lose a game. But as the quarterback, I control a lot of what's going on out on the field, which is why I'm so hard on myself - because I want to win them all.''

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/geno-sm...42--ncaaf.html

Bewbies · 11-02-2012, 10:43 PM

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