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Old 11-04-2012, 07:37 PM  
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Old 11-04-2012, 09:19 PM   #61
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Rodgers is a hell of an athlete. He absolutely counts.
Does he win game after game with his feet?
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Old 11-04-2012, 09:20 PM   #62
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Does he win game after game with his feet?
That's a loaded question.
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Old 11-04-2012, 09:20 PM   #63
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Drew Brees, Eli and Peyton are "immobile" and have won the last several Super Bowls. It's looking like another "immobile QB" will win it this year, at least based on the standings.

Too many people are swayed by RGIII and Cam Newton, two guys who have won exactly nothing in the NFL and think that Geno Smith (black QB) will win games with his feet when he can't do it with his arm.

He won't and neither have Cam or RGIII.

The Chiefs need a pocket passer that has the vision to sidestep the blitz. But they don't need a 600 yard rushing QB.
Brees, Eli and Peyton, while not athletic, along with Tom Brady, are exactly what I talk about when I use the term "pocket mobility".

They are not athletic, but they have an innate sense of the rush, and have the abilty to move within the pocket to avoid sacks.
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Old 11-04-2012, 09:21 PM   #64
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Geno is that. He is elusive plus he has the intangibles.
I think his upside/ceiling is a lot better than Barkley.
His ceiling may be higher but it's just as likely that he never reaches it.
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Old 11-04-2012, 09:21 PM   #65
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Drew Brees, Eli and Peyton are "immobile" and have won the last several Super Bowls.
Brees is immobile?
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Old 11-04-2012, 09:22 PM   #66
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Can someone give me a synopsis of each quarterback? If possible, please let rank them by arm strength, accuracy, ability to progress through reads, ability to read defenses, mobility, pocket presence, poise under pressure, leadership, character, supermodel dateability, ability to inspire others to greatness beyond their wildest dreams, ability to entertain in interviews, ability to avoid interceptions on screen passes, and complete oppositeness in every way to every quarterback we've started over the past five years.
Geno Smith- Has all the tools, plays for a shit coach and team not designed to go up against Big XII-level competition, can be compared to Ben Roethlisberger for Miami, OH in that regard. Has the most upside.

Tyler Wilson- In a similar position as Geno Smith in that his team is a ****ing mess. Has performed worse and made the most bone-headed mistakes of the three but against the toughest competition by far. I personally question his pocket presence; it's not enough just to stand there and get hit. Could use more mobility in the pocket. Has a reputation as a meathead, but those stories might be overblown. Will have to see how he does at the combine and in interviews

Matt Barkley- Has the best WRs, line, and surrounding team. Most likely to do okay in the pros of the three QBs, but the least likely of the three to really excel and be a top 5 QB in the league. Concerns about armstrength are overblown; he really has the ability to make any throw on the field, but the only concern is his windup on long balls. Both Geno and Wilson have that effortless ability to "flick" a long throw, and Barkley needs to take a bit more time. Has a million-dollar smile.
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Brees, Eli and Peyton, while not athletic, along with Tom Brady, are exactly what I talk about when I use the term "pocket mobility".

They are not athletic, but they have an innate sense of the rush, and have the abilty to move within the pocket to avoid sacks.
Yep. You could certainly add Rothlisburger to that list, too.
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Does he win game after game with his feet?
You'll have to ask Rex Ryan that question
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Yep. You could certainly add Rothlisburger to that list, too.
Roethlisberger is in a class by himself.

He's a shrugger.
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Brees, Eli and Peyton, while not athletic, along with Tom Brady, are exactly what I talk about when I use the term "pocket mobility".

They are not athletic, but they have an innate sense of the rush, and have the abilty to move within the pocket to avoid sacks.
Judging by the comments about Smith for the past several weeks, I think that many here are expecting Smith to be part Randall Cunningham and half Dan Marino.

He's not. Not even close.

He has time to prove otherwise but he looks like a project to me. Quite honestly, I hope the Chiefs pass on him. The stiffer the defense, the worse he plays.
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Geno Smith- Has all the tools, plays for a shit coach and team not designed to go up against Big XII-level competition, can be compared to Ben Roethlisberger for Miami, OH in that regard. Has the most upside.

Tyler Wilson- In a similar position as Geno Smith in that his team is a ****ing mess. Has performed worse and made the most bone-headed mistakes of the three but against the toughest competition by far. I personally question his pocket presence; it's not enough just to stand there and get hit. Could use more mobility in the pocket. Has a reputation as a meathead, but those stories might be overblown. Will have to see how he does at the combine and in interviews

Matt Barkley- Has the best WRs, line, and surrounding team. Most likely to do okay in the pros of the three QBs, but the least likely of the three to really excel and be a top 5 QB in the league. Concerns about armstrength are overblown; he really has the ability to make any throw on the field, but the only concern is his windup on long balls. Both Geno and Wilson have that effortless ability to "flick" a long throw, and Barkley needs to take a bit more time. Has a million-dollar smile.

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Does he win game after game with his feet?
Well, his athleticism helps him move in and out of the pocket, which in turns helps him avoid the pass rush, an extend plays.
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Roethlisberger is in a class by himself.

He's a shrugger.
I like how he seems to sidestep defenders just at the last moment.
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Well, his athleticism helps him move in and out of the pocket, which in turns helps him avoid the pass rush, an extend plays.
His last several games have been pretty awful. I'm just not seeing it.
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