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Old 11-05-2012, 08:31 PM  
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610 Sports Big Show-Pioli is the only talent evaluator
Listening to it today, Jaycie Pearson said he talks with someone in the know and they told him Pioli's the only real talent evaluator and the rest of his guys are just number crunchers. Thus the Poe pick.
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Old 11-05-2012, 09:29 PM   #31
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Cherry picking and grading players on their performance on other teams and not taking into account what would have likely happened if they were drafted in KC and were handcuffed to Cassel is silly.

Jimmy Graham, Hernandez, Tate, Decker...all these guys would be open and unseen just as Baldwin has been

I stand by my original opinion that the 2010 and 2011 classes were pretty good.

No flip flopping from me because I truly believe this teams problem is coaching, qb and GM overinfluence...not the remaining talent.

This is a talented team that has no quarterback or coaches.
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Asamoah is a very good player, people just don't realize it.

He is the exception, not the rule.
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Old 11-05-2012, 09:32 PM   #33
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Asamoah is a very good player, people just don't realize it.

He is the exception, not the rule.
Asamoah was a second round talent that we took in the third. It was a damn good draft pick and most were excited with it on draft day.
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Old 11-05-2012, 09:35 PM   #34
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Asamoah was a second round talent that we took in the third. It was a damn good draft pick and most were excited with it on draft day.
I have absolutely no problem with the Asamoah pick but it's less notable due to the surrounding talent Pioli missed.

If Pioli had chosen Hernandez, Washington and Asamoah, the fortunes of this team may have been far different.
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Old 11-05-2012, 09:36 PM   #35
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Asamoah is a very good player, people just don't realize it.

He is the exception, not the rule.
Just watch what happens to Baldwin, Dexter and Moeaki when we draft Barkley or Smith. Similar stuff will happen as in Denver going from Tebow to Manning, but not quite as drastic.

Same goes for guys like Brown, Houston, Berry and Bailey when we get a DC that calls aggresive schemes like the second half of 2011 when rlthe defese was dominant more times than not.
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Old 11-05-2012, 09:38 PM   #36
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I have absolutely no problem with the Asamoah pick but it's less notable due to the surrounding talent Pioli missed.

If Pioli had chosen Hernandez, Washington and Asamoah, the fortunes of this team may have been far different.
The second round was a ****ing disaster and most said it on draft day as well. Arenas was a 4th round talent. McMidget was a major ****ing reach.
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I have absolutely no problem with the Asamoah pick but it's less notable due to the surrounding talent Pioli missed.

If Pioli had chosen Hernandez, Washington and Asamoah, the fortunes of this team may have been far different.
The 2010/2011 classes would be SHINING if we had taken Dalton or Tannehill.
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Just watch what happens to Baldwin, Dexter and Moeaki when we draft Barkley or Smith. Similar stuff will happen as in Denver going from Tebow to Manning, but not quite as drastic.

Same goes for guys like Brown, Houston, Berry and Bailey when we get a DC that calls aggresive schemes like the second half of 2011 when rlthe defese was dominant more times than not.
2011: It was Haley's fault.

2012: It was Cassel's fault/Romeo's fault.

Interesting that the players we know are talented don't seem to struggle. Bowe, Breaston, DJ, Hali, Houston, Flowers, etc.
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Old 11-05-2012, 09:40 PM   #39
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2011: It was Haley's fault.

2012: It was Cassel's fault/Romeo's fault.

Interesting that the players we know are talented don't seem to struggle. Bowe, Breaston, DJ, Hali, Houston, Flowers, etc.
Breaston is struggling as bad as anybody on the team
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He doesn't have a college scouting director.

The evidence is mounting up for why this guy is impossible to work for. First year, he doesn't give Haley an OC or a QBs coach. Third year, he hires a lame duck OC. Fourth year, he doesn't hire a DC. First year, he refuses to work with scouts just because they came from Kuharich. Fourth year, he refuses to hire a college scouting director to replace Emery. And in just 4 years, we've had a head coach fired, two coordinators fired, two coordinators who quit after just one year, and a head coach who was "demoted" from play calling duties.
Wrong. Haley inherited Gailey and subsequently fired him. The lack of an OC in Haley's first year is on Haley, not Pioli.
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The second round was a ****ing disaster and most said it on draft day as well. Arenas was a 4th round talent. McMidget was a major ****ing reach.
Absolutely.

Go back to my draft comments...I immediately brought up Kris Wilson when we picked Dexter and was shouting at the top of my lungs for Cody.

I still think we should have taken Clausen at 36 and Cody in place of Arenas, but two bad picks don't make a whole class poor.

Berry, Asamoah, Moeaki and Lewis(who I'm not a fan of) round out an above average draft class. A solid b...just not an A.
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Matt Millen > Pioli

Millen never forced a bad QB like Cassel on the team
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And there were numerous people that asked the question why Moeaki over Jimmy Graham that's another pretty blatant draft day call.
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Breaston is struggling as bad as anybody on the team
Breaston has been phased out of the offense almost entirely because of the idiots running the team.

Last season, when Haley was here and incorporating him correctly, he was a key part of the offense and doing just fine, even with Cassel and Palko chucking ducks.
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2011: It was Haley's fault.

2012: It was Cassel's fault/Romeo's fault.

Interesting that the players we know are talented don't seem to struggle. Bowe, Breaston, DJ, Hali, Houston, Flowers, etc.
I was the biggest Haley supporter on this board and still think he would have had us in the superbowl conversations if he had a good qb to work with in KC.

Cassel.

Breaston isn't struggling?

Also realize that thee rest of those guys are veterans, not developing talent...or not developing talent is probably more accurate.
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