Football The SEC... REALLY?

**Saul Good** · 11-11-2012, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf

Why? Notre Dame's schedule is stronger than both Oregon's and K-State's and by seasons end will rate stronger than Alabama's. If you want to look at like opponents, compare K-State's game vs. OU against the Irish's. If all three end up undefeated, Notre Dame will have just as strong of an argument as either of the other two.

Who do you think Notre Dame is going to play that will be better than what Alabama will see in the conference championship game?

Go through the schedule. For every team ND has played, Bama has played a better team.

SCTrojan · 11-11-2012, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Too

Who do you think Notre Dame is going to play that will be better than what Alabama will see in the conference championship game?

Go through the schedule. For every team ND has played, Bama has played a better team.

So far -

Alabama Notre Dame

Michigan Navy
Western Kentucky Purdue
@Arkansas @Michigan State
Florida Atlantic Michigan
Ole Miss Miami
@Missouri Stanford
@Tennessee BYU
Mississippi State @Oklahoma
@LSU Pittsburgh
Texas A&M @Boston College

I'd say that the toughest game for Bama was at LSU. The toughest game for Notre Dame was at Oklahoma. In my mind a wash, but I'll give the edge to Bama for discussion purposes.

If you look at the rest, I don't think you can say with any definitiveness that, game for game, every one of Bama's matchups were tougher than what Notre Dame has faced.

**LoneWolf** · 11-11-2012, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Too

Who do you think Notre Dame is going to play that will be better than what Alabama will see in the conference championship game?

Go through the schedule. For every team ND has played, Bama has played a better team.

**Saul Good** · 11-11-2012, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf

LSU > Oklahoma

aTm > Stanford

Michigan = Michigan (Bama won by 27, ND won by 7)

Mississippi St. > Michigan St.
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Not yet played

SEC East Champ > USC

**LoneWolf** · 11-11-2012, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Too

LSU > Oklahoma

aTm > Stanford

Michigan = Michigan (Bama won by 27, ND won by 7)

Mississippi St. > Michigan St.
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Not yet played

SEC East Champ > USC

Mississippi St. = most overrated team in country (how we're they ever ranked)

Oklahoma = have lost to the number 1 and 3 teams in the country.

Georgia? = are they really any good? They have played a total of 2 ranked teams and got blown out by South Carolina.

The SEC bias of voters really scews the polls. If Notre Dame, K-State, or Oregon had lost 35 - 7 to South Carolina, they wouldn't even be thought of as a top 5 hell maybe even a top 10 team.

**Saul Good** · 11-11-2012, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf

Oklahoma = have lost to the number 1 and 3 teams in the country.

Georgia? = are they really any good? They have played a total of 2 ranked teams and got blown out by South Carolina.

Oklahoma gets credit because they lost to the number 1 and 3 teams even though their best win (and only win against a ranked opponent) was against the #17 team in the country.

Georgia might not be any good despite their only loss being to the #8 team and having beat the #6 team.

Mississippi State shouldn't have been ranked when they were 7-0 because they have since lost three games to three top 10 teams.

It's amazing how people have to contort things in order to make their conferences look like they are in the same universe as the SEC.

MatriculatingHank · 11-11-2012, 05:29 PM

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6 in the top 12

**Saul Good** · 11-11-2012, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MatriculatingHank

5 SEC teams in the top 10.

All other conferences combined: 4

**LoneWolf** · 11-11-2012, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Too

Oklahoma gets credit because they lost to the number 1 and 3 teams even though their best win (and only win against a ranked opponent) was against the #17 team in the country.

Georgia might not be any good despite their only loss being to the #8 team and having beat the #6 team.

Mississippi State shouldn't have been ranked when they were 7-0 because they have since lost three games to three top 10 teams.

It's amazing how people have to contort things in order to make their conferences look like they are in the same universe as the SEC.

Miss. St. should never have been ranked as high as they were. They had played exactly zero teams of any significance. They have since been blown out in three consecutive games. I know they were all against ranked opponents, but they weren't competitive in any of the three games. They were a fraud.

How high do you think Oregon, K-State, or Notre Dame would be ranked in the BCS if they had a 28 point loss to South Carolina on their record and on top of that only had one win against a ranked opponent? I guarantee it would be nowhere near the top five.

This has never been an argument about what the best conference in college football is. I agree it is the SEC, but the SEC is not "head and shoulders" above every other conference or as you say "in another universe." SEC teams get consistently ranked higher than their résumés suggest because they are members of the SEC. Anyone with a working set of eyeballs can see that the play in the SEC is down this year compared to previous years.

Bewbies · 11-11-2012, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf

This has never been an argument about what the best conference in college football is. I agree it is the SEC, but the SEC is not "head and shoulders" above every other conference or as you say "in another universe." SEC teams get consistently ranked higher than their résumés suggest because they are members of the SEC. Anyone with a working set of eyeballs can see that the play in the SEC is down this year compared to previous years.

They are so far above everyone else it isn't funny. Trying to say otherwise is reeruned.

Look at the top 12 teams in the BCS. Note all the Big 12, B1G, ACC and PAC teams there. They have less teams in there combined than the SEC does...

We all know if ND, Oregon, or KSU were in the SEC they'd still be undefeated....

**Saul Good** · 11-11-2012, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf

Miss. St. should never have been ranked as high as they were. They had played exactly zero teams of any significance. They have since been blown out in three consecutive games. I know they were all against ranked opponents, but they weren't competitive in any of the three games. They were a fraud.

How high do you think Oregon, K-State, or Notre Dame would be ranked in the BCS if they had a 28 point loss to South Carolina on their record and on top of that only had one win against a ranked opponent? I guarantee it would be nowhere near the top five.

This has never been an argument about what the best conference in college football is. I agree it is the SEC, but the SEC is not "head and shoulders" above every other conference or as you say "in another universe." SEC teams get consistently ranked higher than their résumés suggest because they are members of the SEC. Anyone with a working set of eyeballs can see that the play in the SEC is down this year compared to previous years.

What is the second best conference?

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