Chiefs I think it's gonna be Barkley. - Page 4

Chris Meck · 11-13-2012, 01:05 PM

I think that Smith has more obvious physical ability, but there are real questions about offensive system he's in and his performance against real competition.

Barkley's a good bet to at least be a solid NFL QB. Intangibles are all there, and he's run a pro style offense for 4 years.

I think people are making too big of a deal about his arm being weak; it's not weak, it's just not elite. He's super accurate, though.

milkman · 11-13-2012, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

I dont think so either. All three are young with fresh legs and can move around in the pocket. Though i think Smith really needs to work on his pocket awareness.

Seriously.

Smith's pocket awareness is better than any of the others.

The problem is that he is under pressure as soon as he recieves the snap against these better defenses he has faced in the last 3 games.

He has to move before he even has a chance to set up in the pocket.

milkman · 11-13-2012, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by suds79

Okay I digress. Before this stems off into Tom Brady talk etc.

Do you think Matt Barkley's pocket mobility will be an issue? Neither do I.

I think Barkley is going to be a very good NFL QB.

I think that both Wilson and Smith have higher ceilings.

I won't complain about drafting any of those three.

suds79 · 11-13-2012, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

I think Barkley is going to be a very good NFL QB.

I think that both Wilson and Smith have higher ceilings.

I won't complain about drafting any of those three.

agree 100%

Titty Meat · 11-13-2012, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BoneKrusher

Pocket Presence, ability to read a defense and accuracy is a must for whomever we draft.

if we get that and get rid of Cassel i'm a happy camper.

You just described Barkley the same guy you bashed earlier in the thread you moron and your avatar looks like some Burger King knock off.

BoneKrusher · 11-13-2012, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

And i see more of that in Barkley and Wilson than i do Smith.

This past saturday i watched Smith miss wide open throws downf ield and nearly give the game away on a would be interception.

The guy needs work.

Once again, i don't see a clear cut winner yet.

i havent watched a lot of Barkley/USC but if he has all that i'd be ok with him and i'm anti-USC as far as QB's go.

Sorter · 11-13-2012, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

And then when you compare Barkley to Leinart, it's pretty clear that one is vastly more mature than the other.

Certainly. I was just saying I could see why someone could compare the two, but it doesn't really work for me.

lucifer · 11-13-2012, 02:00 PM

Bray will without a doubt be the best QB out of this class when they all retire from the nfl in 15-20 years.

suds79 · 11-13-2012, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by lucifer

Bray will without a doubt be the best QB out of this class when they all retire from the nfl in 15-20 years.

Maybe best physical tools but we don't even know if he'll end up declaring or not.

I think he could use another year so at this point he's dead to me. I don't think he's NFL ready.

BoneKrusher · 11-13-2012, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

You just described Barkley the same guy you bashed earlier in the thread you moron and your avatar looks like some Burger King knock off.

go fist your mama

DBOSHO · 11-13-2012, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Right now my preference would be:

1. Wilson
2. Smith
3. Barkley

This.

Ive been watching alot of wilson on youtube. I know its not the best way to judge but theres full games of every pass hes thrown.

He reminds me alot of favre. Hes going to be the kind of quarterback that will win alot of games for you, but will lose a few as well. I bet he can be a 4000yd/35td/15int consistently in the pros. Hes got an awkward throwing motion, but hes tough as nails, and has gobs of arm strength. I think i like him because he takes chances.

Hes the quarterback I want.

**loochy** · 11-13-2012, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by John_Wayne

Charles Barkley?

No, Lt. Barkley

Woodchuck · 11-13-2012, 03:07 PM

The Lane Kiffen connection is scary. When he was USC's WR coach, all of their WRs busted in the pros. When he was the OC, the QBs, WRs, and RBs busted.

Whatever he touches seems to go bad imo.

1. Wilson
2. Smith
3. Barkley

**RealSNR** · 11-13-2012, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by loochy

No, Lt. Barkley

Not a very charismatic leader. He's nothing without that alien that gives him super-being intelligence

**RealSNR** · 11-13-2012, 03:12 PM

Also, when he started sucking, fans would call him Matt Broccoli.

Toadkiller · 11-13-2012, 03:16 PM

I was all for Barkley until USC got busted for deflating the footballs because he likes a flat ball to grip. This makes me worried that he has small hands and can't grip a fully inflated football that well. I dont know, just something I worry about now and would rather go Geno.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/gameon...balls/1691303/

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Chris Meck MVP Join Date: May 2001 Location: midtown KC Casino cash: $454910	I think it's gonna be Barkley. I think that Smith has more obvious physical ability, but there are real questions about offensive system he's in and his performance against real competition. Barkley's a good bet to at least be a solid NFL QB. Intangibles are all there, and he's run a pro style offense for 4 years. I think people are making too big of a deal about his arm being weak; it's not weak, it's just not elite. He's super accurate, though.
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lucifer Banned Join Date: Nov 2012 Casino cash: $10004900	Bray will without a doubt be the best QB out of this class when they all retire from the nfl in 15-20 years.
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Woodchuck Banned Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Pineapple Under the Sea Casino cash: $10004900	The Lane Kiffen connection is scary. When he was USC's WR coach, all of their WRs busted in the pros. When he was the OC, the QBs, WRs, and RBs busted. Whatever he touches seems to go bad imo. 1. Wilson 2. Smith 3. Barkley
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Toadkiller Garlic make my feet stank! Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Washougal, WA Casino cash: $4994921	I was all for Barkley until USC got busted for deflating the footballs because he likes a flat ball to grip. This makes me worried that he has small hands and can't grip a fully inflated football that well. I dont know, just something I worry about now and would rather go Geno. http://www.usatoday.com/story/gameon...balls/1691303/ Last edited by Toadkiller; 11-13-2012 at 03:23 PM..
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