The fact that no one has been fired

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

What evidence do you have that they WON'T draft a QB #1 overall?

They've never had the #1 pick, so there's no "evidence" that they'll do anything.

However, there's STRONG evidence that the fanbase is bordering on outright revolt and there's INDISPUTABLE evidence that the stadium is half-full.

They really don't have a choice.

I know they have never had the number 1 pick, in fact the #3 overall pick that the current GM used on Tyson ****ing Jackson is the highest pick they have had since the #2 overall picks of Mike Bell, Neil Smith and Art Still.

That is some pretty good evidence, 4 top three picks, all DL.

Nobody can deny, their procedure for putting butts in the seats in previous years was to acquire an experienced mediocre QB that can get some wins.

Do Clark Hunt and his staff think this fan base has the patience to allow a rookie QB to succeed? I don't.

If they did, we would have seen Stanzi already.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by HemiEd

I know they have never had the number 1 pick, in fact the #3 overall pick that the current GM used on Tyson ****ing Jackson is the highest pick they have had since the #2 overall picks of Mike Bell, Neil Smith and Art Still.

That is some pretty good evidence, 4 top three picks, all DL.

All of those players were taken before the advent of modern football. There was no free agency, no rookie salary slotting, none of that.

Originally Posted by HemiEd

Nobody can deny, their procedure for putting butts in the seats in previous years was to acquire an experienced mediocre QB that can get some wins.

And nobody can deny that said approach is no longer putting butts in the seats. That stopped around 1999.

Originally Posted by HemiEd

Do Clark Hunt and his staff think this fan base has the patience to allow a rookie QB to succeed? I don't.

If they did, we would have seen Stanzi already.

The reason we haven't seen Stanzi is because they think Cassel and/or Quinn is BETTER.

Do you HONESTLY think the reason they haven't played Stanzi is because they think it will cost them ticket sales?

If so, you're damaged past to point of no return. Take a couple of years off from this team, dude.

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

All of those players were taken before the advent of modern football. There was no free agency, no rookie salary slotting, none of that.

Neil Smith left as a free agent, but yeah, things have changed in that regard, no doubt. But it is still the Hunt owned Chiefs doing things the same old way.

Originally Posted by htismaqe

And nobody can deny that said approach is no longer putting butts in the seats. That stopped around 1999.

But yet, they keep doing the other things the same old way. DaBoll is Hackett/Rae 2.0 and Cassel/Quinn are Grbac/Gannon/Craig/DeBerg .20 recycled QBs.

They have shown me zero reason to believe they have changed anything.

Originally Posted by htismaqe

The reason we haven't seen Stanzi is because they think Cassel and/or Quinn is BETTER.

Exactly, and gives the 1-9 team a better chance to get a ****ing win now and take some heat off.
Exactly, win now with a crap recycled QB instead of letting a Chiefs drafted QB play when things are clearly lost for the season. They saw the fan reaction to Brodie Croyle when he didn't show success right away.

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Do you HONESTLY think the reason they haven't played Stanzi is because they think it will cost them ticket sales?

Wins, which result in ticket sales.

Originally Posted by htismaqe

If so, you're damaged past to point of no return. Take a couple of years off from this team, dude.

Oh I am Parker, backing way the hell off. Thanks. As I said the other day, I am becoming more like a gawker in the opposing lane looking at a bad wreck, hoping nobody got hurt.

[PhillyChiefFan]

Originally Posted by HemiEd

I know they have never had the number 1 pick, in fact the #3 overall pick that the current GM used on Tyson ****ing Jackson is the highest pick they have had since the #2 overall picks of Mike Bell, Neil Smith and Art Still.

That is some pretty good evidence, 4 top three picks, all DL.

Nobody can deny, their procedure for putting butts in the seats in previous years was to acquire an experienced mediocre QB that can get some wins.

Do Clark Hunt and his staff think this fan base has the patience to allow a rookie QB to succeed? I don't.

If they did, we would have seen Stanzi already.

Or Stanzi may just not be a good NFL QB. If you can't beat out Quinn or Cassel...I'm not saying I wouldn't want to give him a chance, but he should have seen the field with a 1-10 team. If for nothing else, just seeing if something...ANYTHING works.

You're absolutely right, the Chiefs never draft QB's in the 1st. But I think with the recent success of some rookie QB's, combined with the lack of ANY shred of hope at the QB position since Green went down, the fanbase (even the complete idiots) will give a 1st rd draft pick the time they need to acclimate to the NFL. They have tried drafting DL in the 1st and have been met with nothing but failure.

I'm hopeful that the ungodly amount of sucktitude this team has fielded this season, will give reason to fire Pioli/Crennel/Daboll, hire a solid GM/HC/OC that breaks the cycle, drafts the 1st RD QB that we desperately need, and overhaul the team and immediately puts them back on track to where they should be.

If they don't, and we start next season with Pioli, a minion HC, and a re-tread QB, I'll be convinced, once and for all, that Clark doesn't have any desire to field a quality team.

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by PhillyChiefFan

Or Stanzi may just not be a good NFL QB. If you can't beat out Quinn or Cassel...I'm not saying I wouldn't want to give him a chance, but he should have seen the field with a 1-10 team. If for nothing else, just seeing if something...ANYTHING works.

You're absolutely right, the Chiefs never draft QB's in the 1st. But I think with the recent success of some rookie QB's, combined with the lack of ANY shred of hope at the QB position since Green went down, the fanbase (even the complete idiots) will give a 1st rd draft pick the time they need to acclimate to the NFL. They have tried drafting DL in the 1st and have been met with nothing but failure.

I'm hopeful that the ungodly amount of sucktitude this team has fielded this season, will give reason to fire Pioli/Crennel/Daboll, hire a solid GM/HC/OC that breaks the cycle, drafts the 1st RD QB that we desperately need, and overhaul the team and immediately puts them back on track to where they should be.

If they don't, and we start next season with Pioli, a minion HC, and a re-tread QB, I'll be convinced, once and for all, that Clark doesn't have any desire to field a quality team.

It is really irritating that the Cards have already started playing Lindley and we've had Stanzi for 2 years and have no idea how he looks like in a game.