Chiefs Chiefs' Player Jevon Belcher involved in murder-suicide, shoots self at Arrowhead - Page 120

MoreLemonPledge · 10:32 AM

No details yet. Just came across on the news.

edit: Sources say the player is Jovan Belcher. Police have yet to confirm.

An unnamed Kansas City Chiefs player has committed suicide at the team facility and authorities are on the scene, the police confirmed to ESPN on Saturday morning.

Local reports say police are operating with the belief the player fatally shot his girlfriend at a house before driving to Arrowhead Stadium and killing himself at around 8 a.m local time. The Associated Press reported the player's age to be 25.

"We can confirm that there was an incident at Arrowhead earlier this morning," the Chiefs said in a statement. "We are cooperating with authorities in their investigation."

There were no other injuries at the team facility, police said.

The Chiefs (1-10) were preparing to host the Carolina Panthers on Sunday.

The NFL has told the Panthers to travel as planned to Kansas City on Saturday, the Charlotte Observer has reported, citing interim general manager Brandon Beane.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/86...-team-facility

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-02-2012, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by HMc

You came in here like an expert telling us that postponements can't happen because it's too complex with all the deals in place.

I've given clear reasons why the NFL can't postpone to Monday night. If you'd like to dispute that, prove it.

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It's been pretty comprehensively demonstrated to you that when the NFL needs to postpone, it can be done. Since, y'know it has been friggen done. Since then you've done nothing but talk sideways in order to avoid looking like you're entirely full of shit.

I've never stated once that a game could not be postponed. I've stated that under the latest ESPN agreement, games will not be postponed to Monday Night.

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But yeah, you're a forum-hero (fish? dynamite? what?) and a clear winner here.

And you've got far too much time on your hands and not much of a life if your big hit here was to try to impugn me and my comments.

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-02-2012, 01:15 AM

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He also called you an attention whore. Part of the username?

And I'm supposed to care, why, exactly?

For someone who earlier accused me of taking the internet too seriously, I think you need to take a look in the mirror.

HMc · 12-02-2012, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I've given clear reasons why the NFL can't postpone to Monday night. If you'd like to dispute that, prove it.

I've never stated once that a game could not be postponed. I've stated that under the latest ESPN agreement, games will not be postponed to Monday Night.

And you've got far too much time on your hands and not much of a life if your big hit here was to try to impugn me and my comments.

Guy with 37,000 posts and such an involvement in the board that he needed 18 months off to pay some attention to his family (not that they could possibly want it) tells an occasional poster that he has too much time on his hands. Got it.

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-02-2012, 01:19 AM

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Guy with 37,000 posts and such an involvement in the board that he needed 18 months off to pay some attention to his family (not that they could possibly want it) tells an occasional poster that he has too much time on his hands. Got it.

Um, no. JFC, no.

37,000 posts since 2000 equals 8.42 posts a day.

Oh, the horror.

HMc · 12-02-2012, 01:23 AM

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Um, no. JFC, no.

37,000 posts since 2000 equals 8.42 posts a day.

Oh, the horror.

It feels like more, probably because it's exclusively drivel.

Jenson71 · 12-02-2012, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I've given clear reasons why the NFL can't postpone to Monday night. If you'd like to dispute that, prove it.

I've never stated once that a game could not be postponed. I've stated that under the latest ESPN agreement, games will not be postponed to Monday Night.

Nobody has ever argued that it had to be postponed to Monday night. People said postponed, and you basically called them morons for it.

As far as the contract goes, it most likely doesn't say anything about having games on Mondays -- instead, it would probably deal with exclusive rights to nationally televised games on Monday night.

Anyway, the players had a say in this. This was an unforeseeable circumstance that can allows for significant affects on contractual obligations, similar to Acts of God.

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-02-2012, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by HMc

It feels like more, probably because it's exclusively drivel.

Right

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-02-2012, 01:26 AM

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Nobody has ever argued that it had to be postponed to Monday night. People said postponed, and you basically called them morons for it.

Sure. Go ahead and pull up those quotes. Thanks.

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As far as the contract goes, it most likely doesn't say anything about having games on Mondays -- instead, it would probably have exclusive rights to nationally televised games on Monday night.

Get back to me when you've worked on media contracts in the real world as opposed to university.

HMc · 12-02-2012, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Literature

Nobody has ever argued that it had to be postponed to Monday night. People said postponed, and you basically called them morons for it.

As far as the contract goes, it most likely doesn't say anything about having games on Mondays -- instead, it would probably have exclusive rights to nationally televised games on Monday night.

Dane knows what is in the contract. Wait, this isn't about contracts!

chiefzilla1501 · 12-02-2012, 01:31 AM

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I'm going to say this one more time. Hopefully it stops this bickering.

I'd like to have seen the game postponed until Jan 3rd. It's a Thursday night, after the regular season is scheduled to end. Right before Wildcard Weekend.

You can put it on NFL network, making it a national game and collecting more money than if it were just two local markets. It doesn't displace any other network scheduling. The NFL could share that revenue with whatever network was set to run the game. It doesn't split the MNF viewership.

And the city and the players can focus on healing or moving forward or being with family or resting or whatever they need most for the next few days.

As far as I can see, problem solved.

And you don't think Fox would have a little problem with that? What problem is solved? Postponing a game solves a few problems, but creates a mountain of other problems.

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-02-2012, 01:32 AM

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And you don't think Fox would have a little problem with that? What problem is solved? Postponing a game solves a few problems, but creates a mountain of other problems.

Oh please. Fox wouldn't care.

/HMc

Jenson71 · 12-02-2012, 01:33 AM

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Sure. Go ahead and pull up those quotes. Thanks.

Okay, here's a good sample:

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The players would have had no choice in the matter.

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JFC, you're ****ing stupid.

What happens to the advertisers that have paid money for a Sunday game? The local adverstisers in both Charlotte and Kansas City that have paid top dollar for a broadcast on Sunday?

What happens to Fox's regular programming on Monday night? Do you expect them to bump their regular programming for a 1-10 football team versus a 3-8 football team?

There are too many variables here to discuss and quite frankly, you're not worth my time to list.

****ing stupid ass.

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Settle down?

I'm just pointing out all of the contractual obligations and the challenges the Fox Network would face by moving this game.

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So you're going to pull this shit?

First off, you're WRONG. Name the last time NFL games were postponed.

Secondly, go **** yourself.

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MULTI-BILLION

What the **** is wrong with people?

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You're a ****ing reerun.

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How can this be so difficult for people to understand?

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You're a moron.

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Fox 4? Fox 4?

What about the NATIONAL advertisers that paid for Monday night's Primetime programming? What about the advertisers that paid for REGIONAL advertising for a Sunday NFL game?

What about lost viewership for ESPN?

There are at least 20 issues that would have to be considered before such a move, especially considering the move would be made because of the actions a murderer.

You clearly don't know a ****ing thing about broadcast TV.

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Bullshit. You just can't keep up. Dumbass.

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It's not contract law.

JFC.

You're supposed to be smarter than this . . .

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-02-2012, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by HMc

Dane knows what is in the contract. Wait, this isn't about contracts!

I used to think you were a ****ing reerun. Then at one point, we had an "understanding" and I thought we were good. Now, you're back to full on reerun mode.

For a guy that has only 2500 posts in 7 years, you certainly appear to be obsessed with me and I have to tell you, I'm not really thrilled about it.

Jenson71 · 12-02-2012, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Get back to me when you've worked on media contracts in the real world as opposed to university.

Get back to me when you've taken even a basic course on Contracts Law. Any moron can sign their name on sheet of paper and say they've worked on media contracts.

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-02-2012, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Literature

Okay, here's a good sample:

Thanks for posting responses to my three biggest fans.

After all these years, you still haven't figured out the internet.

And I'm beginning to question your law aspirations. JFC, a law school student shouldn't be saying dumbass shit.

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MoreLemonPledge M-I-Z S-E-C Join Date: Apr 2009 Casino cash: $10004927	Shooting at Arrowhead- Chiefs player commits suicide No details yet. Just came across on the news. edit: Sources say the player is Jovan Belcher. Police have yet to confirm. An unnamed Kansas City Chiefs player has committed suicide at the team facility and authorities are on the scene, the police confirmed to ESPN on Saturday morning. Local reports say police are operating with the belief the player fatally shot his girlfriend at a house before driving to Arrowhead Stadium and killing himself at around 8 a.m local time. The Associated Press reported the player's age to be 25. "We can confirm that there was an incident at Arrowhead earlier this morning," the Chiefs said in a statement. "We are cooperating with authorities in their investigation." There were no other injuries at the team facility, police said. The Chiefs (1-10) were preparing to host the Carolina Panthers on Sunday. The NFL has told the Panthers to travel as planned to Kansas City on Saturday, the Charlotte Observer has reported, citing interim general manager Brandon Beane. http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/86...-team-facility Last edited by MoreLemonPledge; 12-01-2012 at 10:32 AM..
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