Utter sadness in Kansas City

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by memyselfI

I disagree. The point has been made. Less is more. At some point it becomes about diminishing returns even before a tragedy happens. The group risks appearing to pile on and marginalizing itself.

And not all critics of the leadership are supporting SOC. There are people who want changes but want no part of a fan revolt. I do think most Chiefs fans are EAGER AND WILLING TO FIND SOMETHING, ANYTHING, TO RALLY AROUND THE CHIEFS. But whatever.

Just keep the media in line because if they turn, when they turn, the movement is toast.

They have been very smart in how they've approached it so far. I trust they will be smart in the next phase. That means being more tactful, but by no means should that mean laying off the pressure.

And your idea of diminishing returns, that is purely your opinion. I am pretty sure hunt knows the twitter account and has seen the blackouts. You can see it in the way pioli has behaved recently. The movement is sending a clear message.

[memyselfI]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

They have been very smart in how they've approached it so far. I trust they will be smart in the next phase. That means being more tactful, but by no means should that mean laying off the pressure.

And your idea of diminishing returns, that is purely your opinion. I am pretty sure hunt knows the twitter account and has seen the blackouts. You can see it in the way pioli has behaved recently. The movement is sending a clear message.

Which was heard and put SOC on the map and in the spotlight in a big way. Go out on top with class. It is about more than wins or losses now. It is about supporting those human beings who happen to live this while the rest of us just like to think we do.

SOC the organization has more to lose than gain at this point. IMO. With power comes great responsibility.

And the great thing about SOC is that the change of ONE word changes everything. Support Our Chiefs.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by memyselfI

Which was heard and put SOC on the mapnand in the spotlight in a big way. Go out on top with class. It is about more than wins or losses now. It is about supporting those human beings who happen to live this while the rest of us just like to think we do.

Which is why I fully support their decision to lay low for a while. I feel bad for what happened to rac and pioli, but that doesn't change the fact that they don't deserve to come back next year. And I have no confidence that will happen until it happens nor that it will happen without fans being vocal about it.

[memyselfI]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Which is why I fully support their decision to lay low for a while. I feel bad for what happened to rac and pioli, but that doesn't change the fact that they don't deserve to come back next year. And I have no confidence that will happen until it happens nor that it will happen without fans being vocal about it.

Look, it is December. Have some compassion and humanity. Maybe some humility. These guys have had a nightmare of a season. They only have a month left. Maybe the greatest thing we could show them is mercy vs appearing to beat a dead dog.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by memyselfI

Look, it is December. Have some compassion and humanity. Maybe some humility. These guys have had a nightmare of a season. They only have a month left. Maybe the greatest thing we could show them is mercy vs appearing to beat a dead dog.

These guys are professionals and competitors. When I played sports, I didn't care about heckling as much as I cared about losing. The greatest thing we as fans can do for them is to ensure they get a front office that enables them to win and has a sense of decency to let players be a part of the community again. And this has never been about the players. Only one player (Cassel) which was much more a commentary on the front office that kept putting him in bad situations.

And again... you are assuming we are beating a dead dog as if the message has been sent, when Kansas City just came off of a GM who was in power for 20 years without being held accountable. Sorry, I don't buy the message has been sent until we see actual changes.

A sense of decency is what SOC is doing by realizing that right now, this is more than just a game. But the end objective hasn't changed. There is absolutely no reason for Romeo or Pioli to be back next year. I'm sorry the players have to get in the way of the mistakes of their leaders. But both the fans and players will be significantly happier when the team creates a culture of winning. More importantly, keep in mind that you are asking us to be compassionate to a front office that has shown no compassion for us and, seemingly, their employees.

[memyselfI]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

These guys are professionals and competitors. When I played sports, I didn't care about heckling as much as I cared about losing. The greatest thing we as fans can do for them is to ensure they get a front office that enables them to win and has a sense of decency to let players be a part of the community again. And this has never been about the players. Only one player (Cassel) which was much more a commentary on the front office that kept putting him in bad situations.

And again... you are assuming we are beating a dead dog as if the message has been sent, when Kansas City just came off of a GM who was in power for 20 years without being held accountable. Sorry, I don't buy the message has been sent until we see actual changes.

A sense of decency is what SOC is doing by realizing that right now, this is more than just a game. But the end objective hasn't changed. There is absolutely no reason for Romeo or Pioli to be back next year. I'm sorry the players have to get in the way of the mistakes of their leaders. But both the fans and players will be significantly happier when the team creates a culture of winning. More importantly, keep in mind that you are asking us to be compassionate to a front office that has shown no compassion for us and, seemingly, their employees.

Well you are going to have to be patient. You are NOT going to see changes till the season ends and certainly not this week or next.

I think the Chiefs are in the dumps while SOC is on a high. The way to stay on that high is to take a pause and just let the rest of the season play out. ESPECIALLY if the media appears to be doing so which I believe they will. There is no good to come of trying to take on the media AND the Chiefs FO. Public perception is everything.

Bottom line, let's agree to disagree.