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Old 12-03-2012, 08:42 AM  
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Belcher to Pioli, "I Love you bro"
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Old 12-03-2012, 11:13 AM   #46
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You know, I think a lot of people on this board are taking a non-football story and making it about football. Pioli the man is not Pioli the General Manager of the Chiefs, and everyone needs to slow their ****ing roll.

Quit tying the need to fire Pioli with this incident. They should have nothing to do with each other, and you just sound like complete shitheads when you do it.
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Old 12-03-2012, 11:20 AM   #47
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Old 12-03-2012, 11:20 AM   #48
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While I agree that this is separate from football, the fact that Pioli and Romeo witnessed this first-hand is ABSOLUTELY going to factor into the decision of whether or not to fire them.

Because firing someone is also about LIFE, as much as it is about football.
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Old 12-03-2012, 11:27 AM   #49
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If it weren't for football, nobody would give a !@#$ about a random hot-head offing himself.

It is absolutely a football story because only through football is it a story at all.

People are trying to avoid discussing this in terms of what it means to our football team and I just don't understand why. The only reason we care at all is because of our football team. I have no problem at all with folks that ask if this will save Pioli's job or if it means we'll pursue Te'o now to replace Belcher. If not, how do we replace Belcher next season?

It's relevant to what we're all here to discuss.

And yeah, given Pioli's history as a callous shitheel and soulless self-promoter, I don't mind the 'how do we know he isn't making this up' line of thought either.

You don't get to spend 4 years being a cockholster to everyone and then be surprised when people aren't dying to throw sympathy your way.
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Old 12-03-2012, 11:30 AM   #50
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While I agree that this is separate from football, the fact that Pioli and Romeo witnessed this first-hand is ABSOLUTELY going to factor into the decision of whether or not to fire them.

Because firing someone is also about LIFE, as much as it is about football.
I think they might want out after seeing something like that. I also think it provides a great out for all. Something like 'in order to move forward AND HEAL after a season mired in adversity and tragedy, a change is in order.'

It's not like either Pioli or Crennel felt loved and appreciated by anyone outside of One Arrowhead Drive. I think this could be the final straw in them wanting to get the f*** outta dodge.
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Old 12-03-2012, 11:34 AM   #51
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I think they might want out after seeing something like that. I also think it provides a great out for all. Something like 'in order to move forward AND HEAL after a season mired in adversity and tragedy, a change is in order.'

It's not like either Pioli or Crennel felt loved and appreciated by anyone outside of One Arrowhead Drive. I think this could be the final straw in them wanting to get the f*** outta dodge.
That's the way I see it.

If they are gone, it will be because they opted to step away from the game.
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Old 12-03-2012, 11:36 AM   #52
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That's the way I see it.

If they are gone, it will be because they opted to step away from the game.
Me too. I also see Clark negotiating some sort of settlement that allows them to resign but not lose their remaining contract. I'm good with that.
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Me too. I also see Clark negotiating some sort of settlement that allows them to resign but not lose their remaining contract. I'm good with that.
I don't really care, as long as they are gone. It's Clark's money, not mine.
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Old 12-03-2012, 11:39 AM   #54
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You know, I think a lot of people on this board are taking a non-football story and making it about football. Pioli the man is not Pioli the General Manager of the Chiefs, and everyone needs to slow their ****ing roll.

Quit tying the need to fire Pioli with this incident. They should have nothing to do with each other, and you just sound like complete shitheads when you do it.
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Old 12-03-2012, 11:41 AM   #55
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i took it this way too.

i took it like they both arrived right around the same time, hell an article posted here said exactly that. and pioli saw he was distraught and started talking to him and a security guard saw the gun and called police
Peter King's MMQB has a fairly detailed sequence. According to his report, Pioli arrived to see an aggitated Belcher. He approached Belcher and they spoke, and Belcher requested to talk to RAC and Gibbs. Pioli called them and they came outside.
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If it weren't for football, nobody would give a !@#$ about a random hot-head offing himself.

It is absolutely a football story because only through football is it a story at all.

People are trying to avoid discussing this in terms of what it means to our football team and I just don't understand why. The only reason we care at all is because of our football team. I have no problem at all with folks that ask if this will save Pioli's job or if it means we'll pursue Te'o now to replace Belcher. If not, how do we replace Belcher next season?

It's relevant to what we're all here to discuss.

And yeah, given Pioli's history as a callous shitheel and soulless self-promoter, I don't mind the 'how do we know he isn't making this up' line of thought either.

You don't get to spend 4 years being a cockholster to everyone and then be surprised when people aren't dying to throw sympathy your way.
Pioli's act as a man should have no bearing on what he's accomplished as a general manager. I understand people asking, but the answer should be the same as it was on Friday of last week. Performance in the position.
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I still think that Romeo steps down and retires after this season. This season had taken a lot out of him before this happened. Now that he's had to deal with this....I think he's done.
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Pioli's act as a man should have no bearing on what he's accomplished as a general manager. I understand people asking, but the answer should be the same as it was on Friday of last week. Performance in the position.
I agree he should go. However, I think some of the personal venom and derision towards him needs to back off....in a big way.
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I still think that Romeo steps down and retires after this season. This season had taken a lot out of him before this happened. Now that he's had to deal with this....I think he's done.
No kidding.

It's hard to hate on Crennel. He is who he is.

Pioli made the mistake of hiring him for HC.
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You know what? **** Pioli the man and Cassel the man and Crennel the ****ing man too.
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