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Old 12-01-2012, 07:52 AM  
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Shooting at Arrowhead- Chiefs player commits suicide

No details yet. Just came across on the news.

edit: Sources say the player is Jovan Belcher. Police have yet to confirm.

An unnamed Kansas City Chiefs player has committed suicide at the team facility and authorities are on the scene, the police confirmed to ESPN on Saturday morning.

Local reports say police are operating with the belief the player fatally shot his girlfriend at a house before driving to Arrowhead Stadium and killing himself at around 8 a.m local time. The Associated Press reported the player's age to be 25.

"We can confirm that there was an incident at Arrowhead earlier this morning," the Chiefs said in a statement. "We are cooperating with authorities in their investigation."

There were no other injuries at the team facility, police said.

The Chiefs (1-10) were preparing to host the Carolina Panthers on Sunday.

The NFL has told the Panthers to travel as planned to Kansas City on Saturday, the Charlotte Observer has reported, citing interim general manager Brandon Beane.


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Old 12-03-2012, 08:17 PM   #2506
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Old 12-03-2012, 08:23 PM   #2507
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Old 12-03-2012, 08:23 PM   #2508
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Old 12-03-2012, 08:24 PM   #2509
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It's all just freaking crazy.

Some of us (including me) were SO worried today about Pioli becoming a sympathetic figure in this because people get so emotional about this stuff.

And here were are, in the same day, informed that it's possible these people KNEW Belcher had problems and tried to keep it a secret.

Myself, I don't know how to feel right now. It's just a sick feeling. But I do know that a lot of the same people that, emotionally, wanted to exonerate Pioli for EVERYTHING because of what he witnessed, will be the SAME people that crucify him if it comes out the Chiefs knew about this and didn't tell anybody.
I don't see anything wrong with the team helping Belcher. They did this all time under Carl who I believe was one of the first in the NFL to make a position in the organization for helping players off the field.

I will add that players personal problems shouldn't be made public at least by the team.
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Old 12-03-2012, 08:31 PM   #2510
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Old 12-03-2012, 08:37 PM   #2511
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The more and more stuff that comes out it seems obvious Belcher was a disturbed individual with a history of being "not right in the head."

Why was he even on this roster if Pioli's Right 53 mantra was anything close to the truth?

Even if you have a roster building philosophy that allows for players who are somewhat rugged individuals...this goes way beyond that.

It's clear why he went undrafted...but it just screams to me like an example of Pioli ignoring a lot of red flags and keeping this guy around because he was one of his favorites.
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Old 12-03-2012, 08:41 PM   #2512
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You have proven over and over you have your opinion and it differs from one. Doesn't mean mine is wrong dude.

Trying to take everything I say and apply it to murder and only that is not being objective and since you are a lawyer I think you know the difference. Or you are a shit lawyer.
There is a difference between murder and manslaughter. And the facts to date don't rule out either. But I can understand why you would want to seize on that to minimize it.

I've met with the families of murder victims. And trust me, they don't give a crap about that distinction.
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Old 12-03-2012, 08:41 PM   #2513
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The right 53 has never been about finding boy scouts. It's about finding guys who actually like playing football. The Patriots were one of the most underhanded teams of the last decade. But they'd find players who would do anything the coach said and weren't just cashing a paycheck.
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Old 12-03-2012, 08:43 PM   #2514
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The more and more stuff that comes out it seems obvious Belcher was a disturbed individual with a history of being "not right in the head."

Why was he even on this roster if Pioli's Right 53 mantra was anything close to the truth?

Even if you have a roster building philosophy that allows for players who are somewhat rugged individuals...this goes way beyond that.

It's clear why he went undrafted...but it just screams to me like an example of Pioli ignoring a lot of red flags and keeping this guy around because he was one of his favorites.
I guess we will see. It is not like prior to killing his girlfriend he was acting like Dale Carter that we know of.

I will add that I have never been a Belcher fan and have been bitching for 2-3 years he shouldn't be the starting MLB. I thought he sucked personally so no huge loss on the football field.
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Old 12-03-2012, 08:44 PM   #2515
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Explain Peyton Hillis, then.
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Disagree. Pioli loves team captains and Matt Cassel types.
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I never said he got it right. If he got it right this team wouldn't be 2-10. I said that's the idea behind it.
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Disagree. Pioli loves team captains and Matt Cassel types.
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Yeah but fake niceness is enough.

Because Pioli is a big fake himself who has always appeared nice.
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