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Old 12-04-2012, 01:42 AM   #1
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Ok? So Pioli was supposed to know months ago that he would eventually kill his girlfriend?
I can't answer that question.

But according to recent reports, he and the club where aware of their issues, which is obviously why he, Gibbs and Crennel knew that they were in no danger when he stormed the gates on Saturday.

This may end far worse for Pioli and Crennel than anyone could have possibly imagined.
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Old 12-04-2012, 01:44 AM   #2
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I can't answer that question.

But according to recent reports, he and the club where aware of their issues, which is obviously why he, Gibbs and Crennel knew that they were in no danger when he stormed the gates on Saturday.
Or maybe it's cause Belcher kept the gun pointed at his head the whole time and he was thanking them the whole time?

And shit, either way... how do you know they didn't feel danger?
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Old 12-04-2012, 01:49 AM   #3
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And shit, either way... how do you know they didn't feel danger?
It's mostly because they've been quoted by every media source as saying "I didn't feel like I was in danger".
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Old 12-04-2012, 01:50 AM   #4
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Or maybe it's cause Belcher kept the gun pointed at his head the whole time and he was thanking them the whole time?

And shit, either way... how do you know they didn't feel danger?
Because they didn't run. Because Pioli didn't hesitate to call Gibbs and Crennel to the scene.

If Pioli felt he was in danger, he would have run. Or walked away. Or backed his way into the facility.

Basically, anything other than what he actually did.
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Old 12-04-2012, 01:53 AM   #5
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Because they didn't run. Because Pioli didn't hesitate to call Gibbs and Crennel to the scene.

If Pioli felt he was in danger, he would have run. Or walked away. Or backed his way into the facility.

Basically, anything other than what he actually did.
That's because they were trying to talk him out of what he was going to do.

Still doesn't explain why Pioli would have known for months that Belcher would do something like this.
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Old 12-04-2012, 01:46 AM   #6
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I can't answer that question.

But according to recent reports, he and the club where aware of their issues, which is obviously why he, Gibbs and Crennel knew that they were in no danger when he stormed the gates on Saturday.

This may end far worse for Pioli and Crennel than anyone could have possibly imagined.
The Chiefs had provided counseling and “were bending over backward” to help him. I just wanna know why Belcher didn't turn to the NFLPA for help too.
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Old 12-04-2012, 01:47 AM   #7
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I can't answer that question.

But according to recent reports, he and the club where aware of their issues, which is obviously why he, Gibbs and Crennel knew that they were in no danger when he stormed the gates on Saturday.

This may end far worse for Pioli and Crennel than anyone could have possibly imagined.
How can you possibly inject blame on anyone else besides Belcher? No matter the knowledge of their situation, I'm fairly certain Crennel or Gibbs had no idea this guy would snap like this?

I think people are reading too much into his character which we know little to nothing about and overlooking someone who obviously just snapped that day.
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Old 12-04-2012, 01:49 AM   #8
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How can you possibly inject blame on anyone else besides Belcher? No matter the knowledge of their situation, I'm fairly certain Crennel or Gibbs had no idea this guy would snap like this?

I think people are reading too much into his character which we know little to nothing about and overlooking someone who obviously just snapped that day.
That's what Puss* does to some man.
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How can you possibly inject blame on anyone else besides Belcher? No matter the knowledge of their situation, I'm fairly certain Crennel or Gibbs had no idea this guy would snap like this?

I think people are reading too much into his character which we know little to nothing about and overlooking someone who obviously just snapped that day.
People havent been within 100 miles of Belcher and act like his psychiatrist.

Yet when people who talked to Belcher literally every single day talk about his character, people here ignore it.
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Old 12-04-2012, 01:50 AM   #10
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People havent been within 100 miles of Belcher and act like his psychiatrist.

Yet when people who talked to Belcher literally every single day talk about his character, people here ignore it.
I think that went out the door when he MURDER SOMEONE.
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Old 12-04-2012, 01:53 AM   #11
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People havent been within 100 miles of Belcher and act like his psychiatrist.

Yet when people who talked to Belcher literally every single day talk about his character, people here ignore it.
You're what, 19 years old?

You don't know ****ing dick about the world.

When you're 38, your outlook will be far different.

Well, hopefully.
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Old 12-04-2012, 01:55 AM   #12
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You're what, 19 years old?

You don't know ****ing dick about the world.

When you're 38, your outlook will be far different.

Well, hopefully.
And you don't know dick about Belcher's behavior before this.
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And you don't know dick about Belcher's behavior before this.
So?

The second I read the story, I knew and posted that the murder/suicide had NOTHING to do with head trauma and was a crime of passion.

The second I read that Pioli, Crennel and Gibbs felt no danger, I KNEW it had nothing to do with head trauma, a killing spree or that he was intent on murdeing others.
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So?

The second I read the story, I knew and posted that the murder/suicide had NOTHING to do with head trauma and was a crime of passion.

The second I read that Pioli, Crennel and Gibbs felt no danger, I KNEW it had nothing to do with head trauma, a killing spree or that he was intent on murdeing others.
I'm not arguing any of that it was a crime of passion.


But to backtrack a bit, because it was a crime of passion, that means Pioli and Crennel should have known months ago Belcher would kill his girlfriend?


Is this really what you're suggesting?
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So?

The second I read the story, I knew and posted that the murder/suicide had NOTHING to do with head trauma and was a crime of passion.

The second I read that Pioli, Crennel and Gibbs felt no danger, I KNEW it had nothing to do with head trauma, a killing spree or that he was intent on murdeing others.
Well ****ing said. REP
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