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Old 12-05-2012, 07:52 PM   #1
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how can you ****ers cheer for a guy like clark hunt? that idiot has your wife's football IQ. maybe even less.
How much do you think Robert Kraft's football IQ matters to the Patriots?
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Old 12-05-2012, 07:53 PM   #2
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How much do you think Robert Kraft's football IQ matters to the Patriots?
Or how much Jerry Jone's self perceived football knowledge is killing the Cowboys.

They were good when he stayed out of it.
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Old 12-05-2012, 07:58 PM   #3
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Or how much Jerry Jone's self perceived football knowledge is killing the Cowboys.

They were good when he stayed out of it.
They were good right after the Walker trade while JJ was there with more picks than anyone could **** up. Read the Great Train Robbery. Heck they were so stacked boot leg Barry won a title with that team~
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Old 12-05-2012, 08:01 PM   #4
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They were good right after the Walker trade while JJ was there with more picks than anyone could **** up. Read the Great Train Robbery. Heck they were so stacked boot leg Barry won a title with that team~
That trade was all Jimmy Johnson. As soon as he left and Jerry had to try to hold it together after FA hit they went to shit.

Switzer won with talent Johnson put together. Jerry had nothing to do with building that team other than hiring Jimmy.
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Old 12-05-2012, 08:12 PM   #5
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That trade was all Jimmy Johnson. As soon as he left and Jerry had to try to hold it together after FA hit they went to shit.

Switzer won with talent Johnson put together. Jerry had nothing to do with building that team other than hiring Jimmy.
Uh...that...was the point of my post
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Old 12-05-2012, 08:13 PM   #6
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Uh...that...was the point of my post
No problem. Somebody doesn't understand that.
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Old 12-05-2012, 08:14 PM   #7
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How much do you think Robert Kraft's football IQ matters to the Patriots?
Yeah, those owner guys, they're useless parts of the team... You can't be serious! If you mean they don't make tackles, well that's correct, but it's like your saying when a homeowner has a house custom-built, the homeowner has little to do with the end result. Sure there are plenty of people between the homeowner and the roofer, but to suggest the homeowner amounts to nothing seems a bit disingenuous at best. Now the way they make a difference in the team is different than the GM, HC or QB, but they sure as hell should make a difference.
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Yeah, those owner guys, they're useless parts of the team... You can't be serious! If you mean they don't make tackles, well that's correct, but it's like your saying when a homeowner has a house custom-built, the homeowner has little to do with the end result. Sure there are plenty of people between the homeowner and the roofer, but to suggest the homeowner amounts to nothing seems a bit disingenuous at best. Now the way they make a difference in the team is different than the GM, HC or QB, but they sure as hell should make a difference.
So how mnay SB's do you have to win in what recent time period to be a "good" owner.

Your criteria, your opinion, what is it?
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Old 12-05-2012, 08:41 PM   #9
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So how mnay SB's do you have to win in what recent time period to be a "good" owner.

Your criteria, your opinion, what is it?
Looking at the math... In a league of 32 teams, each with 16 teams, I'd say you should be competing for the trophy once every 16 years or so.

So why do you think Kraft is so successful? He just got lucky with a HC? I'll admit he did, but it might not have just been luck, let's not forget that many people questioned that at the time. He hired a competent HC and gave him more control over final decisions than the GM (Pioli!).. Maybe he just got lucky, maybe he's just plain smart, maybe both...
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Looking at the math... In a league of 32 teams, each with 16 teams, I'd say you should be competing for the trophy once every 16 years or so.

So why do you think Kraft is so successful? He just got lucky with a HC? I'll admit he did, but it might not have just been luck, let's not forget that many people questioned that at the time. He hired a competent HC and gave him more control over final decisions than the GM (Pioli!).. Maybe he just got lucky, maybe he's just plain smart, maybe both...
Scott Pioli wasn't the GM of the Patriots, you dumb****.
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Looking at the math... In a league of 32 teams, each with 16 teams, I'd say you should be competing for the trophy once every 16 years or so.

So why do you think Kraft is so successful? He just got lucky with a HC? I'll admit he did, but it might not have just been luck, let's not forget that many people questioned that at the time. He hired a competent HC and gave him more control over final decisions than the GM (Pioli!).. Maybe he just got lucky, maybe he's just plain smart, maybe both...
Kraft got lucky as shit with Tom Brady. End of the story.
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Kraft got lucky as shit with Tom Brady. End of the story.
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That too...
Dude you are contradicting yourself.
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Looking at the math... In a league of 32 teams, each with 16 teams, I'd say you should be competing for the trophy once every 16 years or so.

So why do you think Kraft is so successful? He just got lucky with a HC? I'll admit he did, but it might not have just been luck, let's not forget that many people questioned that at the time. He hired a competent HC and gave him more control over final decisions than the GM (Pioli!).. Maybe he just got lucky, maybe he's just plain smart, maybe both...
1. Clark is 5 years in so by your own criteria you don't have but about 20% of the proof you need to call him a bad owner.

2. The Chiefs contended for a SB in 2003, 9 years ago, 13-3 #1 seed, great QB and home field. Sorry that IS competing for a trophy. That team should and could have won a playoff game.

So by your own criteria Hunt ownership isn't a failure.
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