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Old 12-05-2012, 08:19 PM  
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Schefter- "Barkley Late first-round pick" Smith scouts "aren't completely wowed"

ESPN's Adam Schefter stated on Mike & Mike Wednesday morning that USC QB Matt Barkley is viewed around the NFL as a "late first-round pick."
Schefter cited a relatively weak incoming quarterback class as reasons for Alex Smith and Michael Vick to "absolutely" have strong offseason markets. Smith is a trade candidate, while Vick is expected to be released after the Super Bowl. Per Schefter, Heisman finalist Collin Klein is viewed as a "late-round pick," and scouts "aren't completely wowed" by West Virginia QB Geno Smith. Barkley showed underwhelming arm strength as a college senior and was interception prone. We wouldn't be surprised if he fell to the second round



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Old 12-05-2012, 09:22 PM   #46
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Old 12-05-2012, 09:23 PM   #47
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LOL, smash another window for me, because I agree with him.
I'm not sure if they're "worth it" according to the Jimmy Johnson draft choice scale that everyone uses.

But IMO, it's worth it for the Chiefs to draft Smith or Barkley or whoever else is deemed the #1 overall QB.
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Old 12-05-2012, 09:23 PM   #48
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He'll also do extremely poorly at the not going bald exercise at the combine.
Yes that's clearly his biggest weakness. He'll never go do well because of that.
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Old 12-05-2012, 09:25 PM   #49
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With all this draft stuff popping up, lets play a little game. Name this player, based on his pre draft analysis.

POSITIVES: Athletic passer with the physical skills and mental intangibles needed to lead a franchise at the next level. Quickly sets up in the pocket, sells ball fakes and technically very sound. Poised under the rush, steps up to avoid defenders and works to keep the play alive. Patient, buys time in the pocket and waits for receivers to come free. Does an excellent job with his reads and natural looking off the safety. Does not make mental errors and throws the ball away rather than toss the errant pass. Times the short and intermediate throws well, as receivers rarely wait for the ball out of their breaks. Outstanding vision and immediately spots the open receiver. Possesses a quick release, live arm and zips the outs or gets the ball downfield. Throws with touch. Sits in the pocket and takes a big hit in order to get the pass off. Fleet-footed and picks up yardage with his legs when necessary.

NEGATIVES: Though accurate, lacks top pass placement and has receivers extending vertically to pull the ball out of the air. Must improve his accuracy down the field. Lacks top footwork releasing the ball off a three step drop. Lacks pocket stature.
I googled it~
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Old 12-05-2012, 09:26 PM   #50
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Smith has the physical attributes. Barkley has the intangables. We really can't go wrong with either one.
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Old 12-05-2012, 09:28 PM   #51
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Smith has the physical attributes. Barkley has the intangables. We really can't go wrong with either one.
Intangibles can suck it.
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Old 12-05-2012, 09:28 PM   #52
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LOL, smash another window for me, because I agree with him.



That's fine. I'm not a Geno or bust guy. At least not yet.
O.City just said it pretty well.

There's no such thing as value anymore. The stakes of whiffing on a top first round pick have never been lower. Especially for QBs, since the NFL is turning into such a QB-friendly league.

High ceilings and potential should be #1 on a team's brain when they're drafting in the top 10. Meaning for us:

What do we stand to gain by drafting a Jarvis Jones who plays to the top of his potential?

What do we stand to gain by drafting a Geno Smith who plays at the top of his potential?

Guess what we stand to lose by drafting either player when they bust?

THE EXACT SAME AMOUNT- A PISSED AWAY DRAFT PICK.

So take the QB. Each and every ****ing time.
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Old 12-05-2012, 09:28 PM   #53
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Smith has the physical attributes. Barkley has the intangables. We really can't go wrong with either one.
Does Cassell have the intangibles?
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Old 12-05-2012, 09:28 PM   #54
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I googled it~
Made a thread out of it, keep your trap shut.
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Old 12-05-2012, 09:30 PM   #55
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Say you draft Teo. Whats the absolute best scenario you can get out of that? Can a MLB Ted backer in a 34 scheme carry you to where you wanna go?
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Old 12-05-2012, 09:31 PM   #56
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It does when fans are so goddamn miserable that they actually give a **** about draft value when searching for the future franchise QB.

One of two results is going to happen:
A. The Chiefs hit on their franchise QB
B. The Chiefs bust on their franchise QB

That extra draft value has NOTHING to do with the outcome of the above answer. All it does is put our decision at risk for busting because we probably won't be able to pick the best guy.
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Old 12-05-2012, 09:33 PM   #57
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Say you draft Teo. Whats the absolute best scenario you can get out of that? Can a MLB Ted backer in a 34 scheme carry you to where you wanna go?
I don't know. I'd like to phone a friend on that one.

Call my buddy Tyson Jackson, Regis.
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Old 12-05-2012, 09:33 PM   #58
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Value mattered when you were slotting guys at huge amounts of money when they hadn't played a down.


Now, it doesn't matter at all.

But what does matter? Getting a ****ing Qb to lead this team for the next decade.

Which might explain why damn near every redraft has QB's going at the top of every draft.
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Old 12-05-2012, 09:34 PM   #59
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I don't know. I'd like to phone a friend on that one.

Call my buddy Tyson Jackson, Regis.
I'm just amazed at this shitty line of thinking.

You want a leader on defense? Fine, I get that. It's a big concern for me.

But you don't spend a top 3 pick on a ****ing player that will play a position that's probably the 7 or 8 most important on your defense.
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