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Old 12-05-2012, 09:19 PM  
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Schefter- "Barkley Late first-round pick" Smith scouts "aren't completely wowed"

ESPN's Adam Schefter stated on Mike & Mike Wednesday morning that USC QB Matt Barkley is viewed around the NFL as a "late first-round pick."
Schefter cited a relatively weak incoming quarterback class as reasons for Alex Smith and Michael Vick to "absolutely" have strong offseason markets. Smith is a trade candidate, while Vick is expected to be released after the Super Bowl. Per Schefter, Heisman finalist Collin Klein is viewed as a "late-round pick," and scouts "aren't completely wowed" by West Virginia QB Geno Smith. Barkley showed underwhelming arm strength as a college senior and was interception prone. We wouldn't be surprised if he fell to the second round



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Old 12-05-2012, 11:34 PM   #91
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Let's assume Chiefs get the #1 pick and they go with Smith. Tyler Wilson is available with the 1st pick of the 2nd round. Should the Chiefs take Wilson?
Absolutely not.

Developing, nurturing and bringing along one rookie QB is difficult.

Attempting to do that with two rookie QB's, especially when there are number of holes to fill throughout the roster, is irresponsible and IMO, would not end well.
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Old 12-05-2012, 11:38 PM   #92
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Absolutely not.

Developing, nurturing and bringing along one rookie QB is difficult.

Attempting to do that with two rookie QB's, especially when there are number of holes to fill throughout the roster, is irresponsible and IMO, would not end well.
Do you think the Skins made a mistake drafting two QBs? (Granted, Cousins was a fourth.) I've heard mixed reviews from various analysts. Might be too early to judge.
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Old 12-05-2012, 11:39 PM   #93
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Absolutely not.

Developing, nurturing and bringing along one rookie QB is difficult.

Attempting to do that with two rookie QB's, especially when there are number of holes to fill throughout the roster, is irresponsible and IMO, would not end well.
I agree. I understand why some people want to draft two guys, but if your #1 struggles at all(which most do) then its creating a circus. I would be more comfortable taking a guy a few rounds later or not at all.

Even if you have a smart coach and GM, giving them two top 30 overall players that fight for an all or nothing position is pretty difficult to handle. The only way would be to say the #1 overall pick is the starting QB no matter what and then a few years down the line switch if it wasn't working. I just don't really like it.
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Old 12-05-2012, 11:40 PM   #94
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If you decide that Geno is your guy that early, you best be surrounding him wiht as much talent as you can.

So no, not that early would I take another one.
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Old 12-05-2012, 11:42 PM   #95
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Do you think the Skins made a mistake drafting two QBs? (Granted, Cousins was a fourth.) I've heard mixed reviews from various analysts.
It's difficult to determine at this time but they definitely needed help along their offensive line and even with their offseason signings at WR, are still thin at that position, which could cost them a playoff spot.
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Old 12-05-2012, 11:47 PM   #96
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It's difficult to determine at this time but they definitely needed help along their offensive line and even with their offseason signings at WR, are still thin at that position, which could cost them a playoff spot.
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If you decide that Geno is your guy that early, you best be surrounding him wiht as much talent as you can.

So no, not that early would I take another one.
True. Cousins currently contributes nothing on gameday. Unless you include holding a clipboard.
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Old 12-05-2012, 11:48 PM   #97
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I also think that
1) RG3 came in with so much fan-fare
2) Cousins being a 4th rounder vs. Wilson being a second

makes Washington's scenario much easier than ours would be.
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Old 12-05-2012, 11:51 PM   #98
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So here's the question Frankie, even with hindsight, knowing what all those guys turned out to be.


If they were available in this class, along with say I dunno Aaron Rodgers, who you taking?
With the benefit of hindsight I would obviously take AR at the top of the draft.
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Old 12-06-2012, 12:10 AM   #99
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The scouts are saying this, supposedly, but watch a major abundance of QBs get picked right from the beginning. The need is so high fo QBs (it being the most important position in sports) that teams are gonna pick one anyway. And with the CBA being the way it is now a bust doesn't hurt as bad. High risk, high reward. Just watch, it's gonna be like Black Friday with the QBs.
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Old 12-06-2012, 12:22 AM   #100
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This is all such crap.

I remember last year after the bowl games when all the players were ranked at certain spots and then they all changed, and I thought, wtf? None of them have played a game, why are their stocks rising or falling?
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Old 12-06-2012, 12:26 AM   #101
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This is all such crap.

I remember last year after the bowl games when all the players were ranked at certain spots and then they all changed, and I thought, wtf? None of them have played a game, why are their stocks rising or falling?


You can't be serious.
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Old 12-06-2012, 12:42 AM   #102
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I don't think any of the QB's are worth a #1-#5 pick. I would like to see us trade down, get another 1st, and draft the QB later in the 1st along with another impact player.
This.
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Old 12-06-2012, 02:07 AM   #103
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I don't think any of the QB's are worth a #1-#5 pick. I would like to see us trade down, get another 1st, and draft the QB later in the 1st along with another impact player.
OH bull shit.

Geno Smith is well worth the top pick of the draft and if you trade down you can miss the opportunity this year for his services. Why settle on second best QB or risk having to take the third best in the draft when the other teams are going to jimp them.
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YEAH trade down and risk taking any of the top 3 QB prospects great.

****ing dumb.
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