Chiefs Schefter- "Barkley Late first-round pick" Smith scouts "aren't completely wowed" - Page 8

ShowtimeSBMVP · 12-05-2012, 09:19 PM

ESPN's Adam Schefter stated on Mike & Mike Wednesday morning that USC QB Matt Barkley is viewed around the NFL as a "late first-round pick."
Schefter cited a relatively weak incoming quarterback class as reasons for Alex Smith and Michael Vick to "absolutely" have strong offseason markets. Smith is a trade candidate, while Vick is expected to be released after the Super Bowl. Per Schefter, Heisman finalist Collin Klein is viewed as a "late-round pick," and scouts "aren't completely wowed" by West Virginia QB Geno Smith. Barkley showed underwhelming arm strength as a college senior and was interception prone. We wouldn't be surprised if he fell to the second round

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/7421/matt-barkley

**mdchiefsfan** · 12-06-2012, 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Te'o isn't Ray Lewis. (Picked 26th overall)

Te'o isn't Patrick Willis. (Picked 11 overall)

Te'o isn't Brian Urlacher. (Picked 9th overall)

Te'o isn't D'Qwell Jackson. (Picked 34th overall)

He may be a solid NFL linebacker but until he runs a 4.3 forty, measures 6'2 and weights 260 pounds at the Combine, the guy, IMO, is a mid-to-late draft choice at best.

He's most likely, IMO, a second round talent at best.

This shows that you need to scout your ILB. There are quality players that can play the position in the late first/early second round. I will shit a brick if we take Te'o.

Chief Roundup · 12-06-2012, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by T-post Tom

Let's assume Chiefs get the #1 pick and they go with Smith. Tyler Wilson is available with the 1st pick of the 2nd round. Should the Chiefs take Wilson? Let the best man win? Or possible trade bait for later? Or just a potential great backup at a decent salary...(yes, two different styles, for sure.)

Yeah and trade Geno for someones 2cd this year and their first next year.

**ChiefGator** · 12-06-2012, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

I don't get this value shit.

You know whats valuable? A franchise QB.

Quoted for truth.

PhillyChiefFan · 12-06-2012, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

OH bull shit.

Geno Smith is well worth the top pick of the draft and if you trade down you can miss the opportunity this year for his services. Why settle on second best QB or risk having to take the third best in the draft when the other teams are going to jimp them.

**RealSNR** · 12-06-2012, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

YEAH trade down and risk taking any of the top 3 QB prospects great.

****ing dumb.

But... but... draft value, man!

Sorter · 12-06-2012, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR

But... but... draft value, man!

It is simply to risky and the value isn't there.

If we get Joekelksjefl AND keep Albert, we can finally move Albert to LG, because, well, **** that guy and his production at LT the last 3 years. It isn't like we drafted a LG in the 2nd round and a LT in the 3rd round last year anyways.

PhillyChiefFan · 12-06-2012, 07:10 AM

The Browns constantly take a lower value QB and look where it's gotten them. A revolving door of QB's.

Quinn: #22
McCoy: #85
Weeden: #22 (and they have already expressed doubts about him)

But at the very least, the Browns aren't afraid to draft a QB. Take the chance and pull the friggin trigger. We have the opportunity to draft a QBOTF without giving up any picks.

PhillyChiefFan · 12-06-2012, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Sorter

It is simply to risky and the value isn't there.

If we get Joekelksjefl AND keep Albert, we can finally move Albert to LG, because, well, **** that guy and his production at LT the last 3 years. It isn't like we drafted a LG in the 2nd round and a LT in the 3rd round last year anyways.

I can tell I've been a Chiefs fan for far too long, because...sadly...I can see them justifying a pick this way.

Chiefnj2 · 12-06-2012, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by PhillyChiefFan

The Browns constantly take a lower value QB and look where it's gotten them. A revolving door of QB's.

Quinn: #22
McCoy: #85
Weeden: #22 (and they have already expressed doubts about him)

But at the very least, the Browns aren't afraid to draft a QB. Take the chance and pull the friggin trigger. We have the opportunity to draft a QBOTF without giving up any picks.

The Browns are an example that a QB cannot cure everything, you need to build a team around the QB.

The Texans drafted a QB early, but didn't support him with an OL or weapons. Now with a good D, revamped OL, Johnson and a solid running game they are a contender.

seamonster · 12-06-2012, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by TRR

Geno is a guy who will WOW at the combine. He will measure well, speak even better, and he will perform fantastically in shorts and a t-shirt.

His resume speaks for itself.

Whenever I've seen geno smith talk he's come across like a dick that taunts and has bad vocabulary. Complete opposite of an RGIII.

PhillyChiefFan · 12-06-2012, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

The Browns are an example that a QB cannot cure everything, you need to build a team around the QB.

The Texans drafted a QB early, but didn't support him with an OL or weapons. Now with a good D, revamped OL, Johnson and a solid running game they are a contender.

Very true. I think that the Chiefs have most of those pieces in place. Not all, but most.

Draft a QB and a speed receiver and by God, I believe we would have a team...

chiefzilla1501 · 12-06-2012, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

If you decide that Geno is your guy that early, you best be surrounding him wiht as much talent as you can.

So no, not that early would I take another one.

I would consider adding someone late, though, like a Jordan Rodgers. By now the Chiefs should know if Stanzi is in their plans or not. If he can't even make the active roster, that's not that encouraging.

PhillyChiefFan · 12-06-2012, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I would consider adding someone late, though, like a Jordan Rodgers. By now the Chiefs should know if Stanzi is in their plans or not. If he can't even make the active roster, that's not that encouraging.

Also depends on the *hopefully* incoming staff's offensive scheme.

Though I agree, if he hasn't even seen the field in this season's QB train wreck, it doesn't bode well for his future.

**BigMeatballDave** · 12-06-2012, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

The Browns are an example that a QB cannot cure everything, you need to build a team around the QB.

Hardly. That offense is devoid of talent outside of RB, QB, and LT.

The Colts are an example of how a QB can cure everything. A 2-14 team last yr that is 8-4, and looking to make the playoffs.

Chiefnj2 · 12-06-2012, 07:36 AM

Every half way decent QB performs the same at the combine and "wows" at their workouts.

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