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Old 12-06-2012, 02:14 PM  
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Whitlock Triples down on Gun Control

Whitlock Vs. Bill O Reilly.....Whoever wins....we lose.



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It wasnít that long ago, in the aftermath of Washington Redskins safety Sean Taylorís tragic death in 2007, that I was the toast of right-wing America. Before there were any arrests, before we knew the gruesome circumstances that precipitated his murder, I analogized Taylorís assailants to the Black KKK in a column for FOXSports.com

Iím fond of provocative analogies. That affinity bit me in the rear end Monday morning. In the aftermath of Kansas City Chiefs linebacker Jovan Belcherís murder-suicide, during an interview with Roland Martin on the popular Tom Joyner morning radio show, I groggily and inarticulately popped off a provocative analogy that I had yet to explain in writing.

I analogized the National Rifle Association to the KKK. Big mistake. My views on the NRA and distaste for the organization cannot be explained at 4:30 a.m. (I live in LA) during a fast-paced interview on a morning radio show. My column is the foundation for all of my most provocative opinions. My podcast is my secondary foundation for those opinions. I prefer to control my message and not hand fragments of my thoughts over to others to exploit, recast and define. I like to be interviewed about what I wrote in my column and what I said during my podcast.

Through no fault of Roland Martin or Tom Joyner, I went off message early Monday morning and spewed a half-baked thought. And by doing so, I gave the right-wing entertainment media the out it needed to further bastardize the rather harmless column I wrote Saturday night about Belcherís murder-suicide.

The column primarily focused on my belief that it was inappropriate for the Chiefs to play a game 28 hours after Belcher murdered his live-in girlfriend and then drove to the Chiefs practice facility and killed himself in front of the general manager, head coach and defensive coordinator. Kansas Cityís victory over the Carolina Panthers, nor the KC playersí insistence on wanting to play, in no way invalidates my contention that the NFL was wrong for playing the game as scheduled.

The column whined that football is our God and not even murder-suicide will slow us from worshipping at its altar. The still-in-shock and desensitized-to-violence players and coaches turned Belcherís locker into a game-day shrine. Jovan Belcher is a murderer. His suicide did not transform him into a fallen hero.



There was one primary reason my Saturday-night column focused on whether the game should be played. I didnít know what else to write. At the time, there was little concrete information about the tragedy. I wrapped up my column with an ancillary point articulating my belief that Americaís gun culture is out of control, dangerous and a threat to our liberty.

I further argued that our Second Amendment is outdated. The right to bear arms no longer protects us from a government armed with stealth bombers, predator drones, tanks, nuclear weapons and all the other knickknacks James Madison and Co. couldnít envision when ratifying the Bill of Rights in 1791.

Bob Costas quoted and paraphrased my ancillary point during a courageous halftime commentary on NBCís ďSunday Night Football.Ē He infuriated the right-wing entertainment media and gave Bill OíReilly and his disciples the opening to pretend the Second Amendment is under some sort of serious attack. It is not. We just finished a hotly-contested election cycle, and not one political candidate that I can think of uttered a single meaningful word about gun violence, gun control, gun culture and the outdatedness of the justification for the Second Amendment.

This issue is so dead in this country that the flag-waving, right-wing entertainment media have to drag up a non-political, non-voting sports columnist and a talented sports broadcaster as their straw men to justify their phony outrage. I donít think Iíll be called before the Senate to speak on any toothless gun-control legislation the NRA lobby lets slip through a crack.

But it appears I was summoned to testify before Speaker of The Big House Bill OíReilly, the FOX News entertainer. OíReilly is fixated on the mistake I made on the Tom Joyner show. OíReilly spent part of his Tuesday show telling his viewers that I was afraid to come on ďThe FactorĒ and discuss my views on the NRA, the Second Amendment and gun culture.

Iím a grown-ass man and itís 2012. I donít have to shuffle off to the Big House when summoned. OíReilly is not Boehner, Pelosi or Obama. Heís a TV entertainer who has spent the weeks after the election crying about the end of ďwhite establishmentĒ America, the end of the days when an upstanding white man felt entitled to summon whomever he wanted whenever he wanted to the Big House to dance

I donít dance.

Every cable TV network requested that I consent to an interview this week. I declined all invitations. Only Speaker of the Big House OíReilly attacked me for exercising my constitutional right of freedom. Itís been a tough week for me personally, and I chose to control my message by using my platforms ó column and podcast.

Beginning with my defense of Don Imus during the Rutgers controversy, Iíve appeared on OíReillyís program several times. You typically sacrifice two hours of time for an eight-minute segment that accomplishes very little. Itís not the deep end of the pool. Thereís no room for someone like me to splash around.

If OíReilly wants to talk, heís more than welcome at my little house. Iíd love to tape a podcast with him discussing the Second Amendment, gun culture and his fears about the end of white establishment America.

For now, Iím going to stick to writing my sports column. And when given a chance to broaden sports issues into social issues I will take that opportunity. Thatís what I do.

And I do it without giving much thought to which politically partisan group Iím pissing off. When Taylor was senselessly murdered, I lambasted the primarily black "gangsta" culture that preys on black people the way the KKK once did.

Iím not paid to state the obvious. Iím paid to provoke thought, be compelling and explore the bigger picture. It doesnít require much intellectual heft to point out Belcher is responsible for his reprehensible tragedy.

Recognizing his culpability for his girlfriendís murder and moving on to make a deeper, more nuanced point isnít irresponsible or an effort to excuse Belcherís gross criminality. Itís a bid to probe alternative remedies that might lessen the probability of another Belcher tragedy. History has taught us that human beings are flawed, volatile, irresponsible and violent. What can we do to safely manage these human characteristics beyond the obvious?

I believe we should re-examine our love affair with guns. They donít protect us from tyranny. Guns are toys in America. Guns are a dangerous hobby. Guns are a macho accessory, no different from a shiny sports car.

We canít see this or even have a discussion about it because the propaganda-political-lobby-machine, the NRA, has hoodwinked America into believing handguns make us safer. The NRA, like the KKK, has brainwashed us through fear and division.

I donít believe individual NRA members and/or gun owners ó and Iím quite aware the NRA has members of every race ó are racist. I do believe the NRA capitalizes on and promotes racial fears and ignorance that swings all directions. People of every race are buying guns to ďprotectĒ themselves from their own race or other races. Itís an unhealthy arms race. The NRA is powering it by promoting unnecessary and harmful stand-your-ground laws. The message isnít subtle: Strap up, the other guy is out to get you.

The NRA traffics in fear, division and the seductive power of guns ó the same tools used by the KKK. Other than money, I donít think the NRA has a dog in the race. It just wants all sides armed to the hilt and convinced the other side is ready to shoot. Thatís the recipe that left a 17-year-old Jacksonville kid dead over loud music blaring from a car.

Itís a dangerous recipe that I believe is fracturing our imperfect union. Nations as big and powerful as ours die from internal ó not external ó wounds. Weíve been duped into believing handguns are our salvation, an expression of our American patriotism. Theyíre just the opposite. Their rising popularity pushes us closer and closer to the brink, closer to a war inspired by racial divisions.

To much fanfare and derision, Iíve written provocatively about black peopleís adoption of KKK-like qualities. Iíve bitched rather loudly and passionately about gangsta, hip-hop culture. I donít run my opinions or analogies through a political point of view before airing them. Iím not part of the right- or left-wing entertainment media. Iím just a sports writer spouting my opinions trying to get you to look at the world differently.

If you read me long enough, itís inevitable Iím going write something you passionately disagree with. But the opinions expressed in this column donít come from a dishonest or partisan place.
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Old 12-06-2012, 02:51 PM   #16
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I believe we should re-examine our love affair with guns. They don’t protect us from tyranny. Guns are toys in America. Guns are a dangerous hobby. Guns are a macho accessory, no different from a shiny sports car.
It's really quite true.

I love staring at my weapons, and taking them out to the range. I love knowing that if someone ever attempts to break in my house while I am home, they will have x12 .40 cal rounds unloaded into them until they die to protect what is mine. Do I NEED a gun? No; not if the person breaking into my house doesn't have one either... a sword would be fine by me. A more honorable fight. If NOBODY owned a gun, NOBODY would need a gun for protection. Will that EVER happen? I don't think so.

But honestly, Whitlock is right.
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Old 12-06-2012, 02:56 PM   #17
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I believe we should re-examine our love affair with guns. They don’t protect us from tyranny. Guns are toys in America. Guns are a dangerous hobby. Guns are a macho accessory, no different from a shiny sports car.
But see here's the point...I totally agree with this. I own guns, I'm not particularly a fan of the self defense aspects and I'll probably never be interested in hunting. I'm interesting in firearms like I am in cars, I target shoot them and experiment with novel new mechanical technologies. They are my hobby, my toys, and how I express myself.

Would the government think it's ok the ban sports cars too? That hobby is potentially dangerous also. We have 'assault weapons' bans in certain states that ban features on guns that are realistically cosmetic only. Should we also ban spoilers on cars and aftermarket rims because street racers do that to their cars to and they kill people with them?

I change how my firearms look depending upon how I feel, maybe I'll build an AR with wood furniture and a stainless barrel. Or maybe I'll change up for a more traditional black rifle, depending upon how I feel. How is that different than you waking up in the morning and choosing to wear a blue shirt instead of a red one? Frankly you don't 'need' to wear a colored shirt at all, an uncolored one is perfectly functional and saves money.

Hell why would anyone need a gun that looks like

Or this??


The funny thing is, in a number of states(and from 1994-2004 nationwide), certain guns are prohibited...not because they were any more dangerous...but because they looked different. The fact that in this day and age we are banning things solely because they look different should frighten anyone....
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Old 12-06-2012, 02:56 PM   #18
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Reading the argument, I don't see Whitlock even talking about gun control. He is talking about the nation's proliferation of guns and their love affair with the gun. He is arguing that more guns are not making us safer. He is arguing that in a case like Jovan Belcher it is all to common that in the heat of the moment its too easy to pull out a pistol and start shooting.
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Old 12-06-2012, 03:02 PM   #19
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This basically translates as "There's no way I can back up my Anti-American bullshit in a debate against an intelligent person, so I'm going to hide behind my computer like a bitch."

Way to sack up, Mariotti. Did you get a free box of tampons with that article?

And I like the part where he says that the people he likens to klansman aren't really racist, though. Gee, that's nice.
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Old 12-06-2012, 03:04 PM   #20
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Obama stated point blank that he is in favor of gun control, I believe at the final debate.



I'm not a member of the NRA and I don't give them money directly and I don't agree with all of their statements, however they are doing good work to defend my rights as an owner of multiple guns.

Oddly enough, even though I became a gun owner at 6 years old with a crossman pump pellet gun, and owned a shotgun at 12 and many other guns since...not a single one of them have harmed another human being or have been used in a crime. Not Once.

It's a miracle.
I got my .410/.22 O/U when I was 10 years old and not once since then I have ever considered turning a weapon on another person. Not then and not any time since. That article is full of alot of bull.
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It's really quite true.

I love staring at my weapons, and taking them out to the range. I love knowing that if someone ever attempts to break in my house while I am home, they will have x12 .40 cal rounds unloaded into them until they die to protect what is mine. Do I NEED a gun? No; not if the person breaking into my house doesn't have one either... a sword would be fine by me. A more honorable fight. If NOBODY owned a gun, NOBODY would need a gun for protection. Will that EVER happen? I don't think so.

But honestly, Whitlock is right.
I don't believe that's so.
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Old 12-06-2012, 03:09 PM   #22
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I bought both of my girls daisy "buck" bb guns this week for Christmas.

Whitlock just needs to shoot a toilet full of tannerite with a tracer round from an AR.
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I have guns to protect me from the retards that dont want guns...
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If NOBODY owned a gun, NOBODY would need a gun for protection. Will that EVER happen? I don't think so.

But honestly, Whitlock is right.
While again I am no big fan of the self defense side, the flaw is this argument is the 95lb women against the 200lb rapist. Even if she has a blade she gets about one strike, because once within grapple range it is all over. A gun equalizes strength for her quite quickly.

Also remember even Diane Feinstein had a concealed carry permit, something she conveniently likes to forget....(sorry originally listed Pelosi...wrong CA base Gun control advocate...)
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Maybe I am crazy but at least once a week driving at night...I see something that makes me put the .45 on the passenger seat from it's hiding spot. Either crazy drivers, poeople walking up behind my car to cross the street.

If you know my story I have a number of relatives shot and killed. Now that might happen to me too, but not for a lack of shooting back.

It's a dangerous world.

We are not that much more evolved than people living 2000 years ago.

We have just perfected a few modern living benefits.

Shut of the water and the electricity or slow or stop the resources and food and see what happens

People will go crazy

They will hurt people and steal

Once the survival instinct kicks in

All bets are off

Prison rules

It's kinda ****ed up.
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I wish JWhit would help me pick out a couple of Tactical shotguns for home defense...
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I further argued that our Second Amendment is outdated. The right to bear arms no longer protects us from a government armed with stealth bombers, predator drones, tanks, nuclear weapons and all the other knickknacks James Madison and Co. couldnít envision when ratifying the Bill of Rights in 1791.
This is complete bullshit. If our government turned those kind of weapons on the American people, If it came down to the government against the people like that the people would take their small arms and go take over the armouries and get bigger weapons to even the playing field.
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This is complete bullshit. If our government turned those kind of weapons on the American people, If it came down to the government against the people like that the people would take their small arms and go take over the armouries and get bigger weapons to even the playing field.
I would find it hard to believe that most of the military would take up Arms against their families or friends...

It wouldnt be pretty. The amount of military people that would turn on the Govt would be staggering...

Our right to bear arms is what keeps this country free... No one is going to take guns away from americans without a fight. We are americans for Gods sake, we will defend our rights and ourselves...
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It's not his fault he caught the only curse more powerful than the Madden curse, the curse of having Claynus swing from your nut sack
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