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Old 09-18-2012, 09:07 AM  
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Geno Smith fans roll call

NEW THREAD HEADER (11/17/12):

The list is gone. We will all be Geno Smith fans when he gets drafted by the Chiefs. For historical documentation's sake, I'll keep the list in a separate post on this thread: http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=3314

WHY GENO SMITH?
If you're wondering if Geno Smith is right for you, check out this brilliant post by Saccopoo:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=5388

Next, we have a few GIFs you may be interested in from the Oklahoma game. Insane potential. These are the elite throws that very few QBs can make. What more can I say? Geno Smith can be a franchise QB in the NFL, and the Chiefs need to take a shot on him.

GIF #1:
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GIF #2:
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GIF #3 (My favorite):
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HOW DO WE GET HIM HERE?

Glad you asked. I posted this checklist earlier. It probably belongs in the thread header, and will be updated as the Chiefs close out their season and start a new chapter in their franchise story.

Preparing for Geno Smith's Arrival In KC Checklist

1. [X] Lose games and acquire the #1 overall pick
2. [X] Get Pioli and the Patriot Way cronies the **** out
3. [X] Hire new GM/coach

OPTIONAL (but highly recommended):
4. [ ] Re-sign/tag Bowe, who really wants to play in KC with Geno
5. [ ] Re-sign/tag Albert

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Old 12-18-2012, 09:53 PM   #6271
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First and long? Let's run charles through a cheesegrater inside. Second and long? Let's run Charles through a cheesegrater inside. Third and short? Let's run Charles through a cheesegrater inside.
third and long? Let's run a screen! Second and short? Let's run a screen.
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Old 12-18-2012, 09:54 PM   #6272
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Why don't we ever ****ing try play-action chuck the ball downfield and let Baldwin try and make a play? Oh, because every time we do we get a wobble launched ball that gives the receiver zero chance.
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Old 12-18-2012, 09:59 PM   #6273
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Baldwin has been shit, but we don't seem to use him to the few strengths he does have.
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Old 12-18-2012, 10:13 PM   #6274
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I watch every ****ing game and every pass play we throw is a screen or an underneath timing route that gets blown the **** up. What have you been watching?
What's absolutely hysterical to me is, in Orton's first game as a Chief, we executed 2 or 3 beautiful PA screens, one of which to Thomas ****ing Jones that was a half yard away from a TD.

We get Geno, we can put screens back in the playbook!! Same with PA down the field.

Really, we can put any ****ing play in there because we'll have someone competent at the quarterback position.
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Old 12-18-2012, 11:16 PM   #6275
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There is still hope. We just need to get back on topic.

Alright, who the **** wrote this?...

Smith is obviously a raw talent, but with the right coaching staff and surroundings his transition to the professional level could be a smooth one.
What's this "raw talent" bullshit?

The guy was a Parade All-American Quarterback in high school and a three year BCS conference starter in college who was the 2012 Orange Bowl MVP.

The guy is as experienced at the quarterback position as anyone out there and has shown a very advanced understanding of the game.

Jesus people are dumb.
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Old 12-18-2012, 11:18 PM   #6276
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I didn't realize how much Andrew Luck would affect future classes. It's crazy how this has happened.
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Old 12-18-2012, 11:27 PM   #6277
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he runs a system in college that he wont run in the NFL.
Actually, the receiver route tree at WVU under Holgerson utilizes is and uses mostly pro style route progressions. The only difference is that it's typically operated out of a shotgun versus under center. And add to it that Geno did operate in a pro style set his sophomore year.

And, if you've watched any NFL game recently, more often than not, the offenses are being run out of a shotgun, multiple receiver "spread" setting. Manning, Brady, Brees, etc. are all utilizing a shotgun spread an absolute ton.


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His numbers are skewed because of this gimmick offense.
It's only a gimmick offense if no one else is using it. Right now, a pro style set is the gimmick offense in terms of college football. And it could be easily argued that the "pro style" sets of, say, Charlie Weis during his Notre Dame tenure and USC under Pete Carroll produced substantially inflated/skewed numbers for the quarterbacks in those systems, even more than most of the spread systems.
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Old 12-18-2012, 11:42 PM   #6278
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What's this "raw talent" bullshit?

The guy was a Parade All-American Quarterback in high school and a three year BCS conference starter in college who was the 2012 Orange Bowl MVP.

The guy is as experienced at the quarterback position as anyone out there and has shown a very advanced understanding of the game.

Jesus people are dumb.
Well, it was a BR article, so a certain level of dumbassery is to be expected.
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Old 12-18-2012, 11:44 PM   #6279
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That's absolutely insane to me. What the **** does Glennon possess that Smith and Wilson don't have besides a slight height advantage?

Because here's what Smith and Wilson both have that Glennon does not:

-Superior stats
-Better decision-making skills
-Better downfield vision
-A more consistently accurate deep ball
-A more consistently accurate intermediate out route
-MUCH better escapability and pocket presence

This is just jaw-dropping to me that any professional scout could possibly like Glennon better than Smith or Wilson.
Remember that it has been noted by many people that it was a 50/50 split on Ryan Leaf or Peyton Manning that year.

Sometimes people are just ****ing dumb for no other reason than they are dumb and obviously suck at their job.

Glennon is nowhere near Geno Smith in every possible category. He really struggles when he's forced to make tight throws and his deep balls are very inaccurate.
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I didn't realize how much Andrew Luck would affect future classes. It's crazy how this has happened.
Until Luck, they were still comparing every QB drafted to the 1983 class.

Frankly, I don't really care. Geno is as good and with as much potential as I've seen at that level. I just hope that the next GM and HC see it. I don't see how you couldn't, but there's that Leaf/Manning thing which says otherwise, that somebody is still that dumb.
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It's the subject of unfair scrutiny.

2004 was the last epic QB class before last year. Then in 2005, people weren't really that high on Alex Smith or Aaron Rodgers.

This entire draft class is getting the Aaron Rodgers treatment. Amazing that people thought that Rodgers was even a reach at 5, but 23 teams passed on him.

Turns out that Rodgers is a better QB than anyone in the 2004 class.
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Until Luck, they were still comparing every QB drafted to the 1983 class.

Frankly, I don't really care. Geno is as good and with as much potential as I've seen at that level. I just hope that the next GM and HC see it. I don't see how you couldn't, but there's that Leaf/Manning thing which says otherwise, that somebody is still that dumb.
Ok, this is where I've been pushing back. Again, I like Geno as a #1 pick, but let's not get carried away by exaggerating how good of a prospect he is. He's a better prospect than Cam or Bradford or Jamarcus... but let's not get carried away and say he's a better or equal prospect than Luck or an RGIII.
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Ok, this is where I've been pushing back. Again, I like Geno as a #1 pick, but let's not get carried away by exaggerating how good of a prospect he is. He's a better prospect than Cam or Bradford or Jamarcus... but let's not get carried away and say he's a better or equal prospect than Luck or an RGIII.
Hes our best shot at a QB when we have the chance to get one. Thats all that matters, any other argument is null and void.
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Ok, this is where I've been pushing back. Again, I like Geno as a #1 pick, but let's not get carried away by exaggerating how good of a prospect he is. He's a better prospect than Cam or Bradford or Jamarcus... but let's not get carried away and say he's a better or equal prospect than Luck or an RGIII.
Agreed. His ceiling is high, but those guys are rare.
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Ok, this is where I've been pushing back. Again, I like Geno as a #1 pick, but let's not get carried away by exaggerating how good of a prospect he is. He's a better prospect than Cam or Bradford or Jamarcus... but let's not get carried away and say he's a better or equal prospect than Luck or an RGIII.
I don't think it is unfair to say Geno Smith can out last RGIII in longevity and have a dynamic career in the NFL. If Geno Smith only gets better and RGIII continues to get hurt then it is not an exaggeration to say he is as good of a prospect as RGIII. Andrew Luck maybe in a class by himself as I think he is a FHOFer. Geno Smith has a lot to prove before talk of HOF, but Andrew Luck at the rate he is going is a sure thing.
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