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Old 12-17-2012, 05:04 PM  
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Another person linking Polian's to KC
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/2...t-comes-to-gms

Like Pro Football Weekly, now Jason La Canfora with CBS Sports is saying that the Polian's may be at the top of the Chiefs possible GM list. Polian's (Bill and Chris) are very hands on front office people and of course we know that is how Clark likes it to work (as he is very hands off).
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Old 12-19-2012, 09:05 AM   #136
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And it doesn't have anything to do with him winning a Super Bowl (although that's a COMPLETELY VALID AND RELEVANT STATISTIC).
Completely valid like the pre-2008 statistic that indicated that no black man could ever be elected President because it had never happened? We have an extremely small sample size of SB Champion coaches moving on to different teams and it's hard for any coach to win a SB in the first place.

There are only 18 SB Champion coaches in the first place (out of hundreds of coaches who have tried) and only 9 of those moved on to coach a second team.
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Old 12-19-2012, 09:07 AM   #137
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It's that he's basically a clone of Marty ****ing Schottenheimer.
Only SOFTER...
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Old 12-19-2012, 09:17 AM   #138
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Completely valid like the pre-2008 statistic that indicated that no black man could ever be elected President because it had never happened?
And even then, Hillary was the front runner all the way until almost the end.

Believing that it CAN happen and believing that it WILL happen are two different things.

Possibility <> probability

I'm not interested in completely ignoring history.
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Old 12-19-2012, 10:01 AM   #139
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Dungy who's won playoff games and a superbowl is Marty and Cowher who's 59 games over .500 in his head coaching career is overrated?


..... wow
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Old 12-19-2012, 10:08 AM   #140
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How does Tony Dungy suck? 1 losing season in 13.
I don't get that either. He turned around 1 inept team and with the help of Peyton made the Colts SB contenders every year. Yeah he is conservative as **** and the Tampa 2 D is dead but he is still a very good coach.
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Old 12-19-2012, 10:09 AM   #141
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Dungy who's won playoff games and a superbowl is Marty and Cowher who's 59 games over .500 in his head coaching career is overrated?


..... wow
Seriously. I would take either of those guys in a landslide over Norv, and if I were a Chiefs fan, I'd be celebrating if they replaced Crennell with Dungy or Cowher.
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Old 12-19-2012, 10:11 AM   #142
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Dungy who's won playoff games and a superbowl is Marty and Cowher who's 59 games over .500 in his head coaching career is overrated?


..... wow
Dungy won a Super Bowl because of Peyton Manning.

Cowher won a Super Bowl because of Ben Roethlisberger.

Marty won a Super Bowl...oh wait, nevermind.

DO WE WANT TO WIN REGULAR SEASON GAMES OR DO WE WANT TO WIN A GODDAMN ****ING SUPER BOWL?!?!?!?!?!
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Old 12-19-2012, 10:11 AM   #143
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Eh... Dungy? Eew. Cowher though, yeah.
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Old 12-19-2012, 10:12 AM   #144
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Yeah he is conservative as **** and the Tampa 2 D is dead but he is still a very good coach.


That's like a living contradiction.
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Dungy won a Super Bowl because of Peyton Manning.

Cowher won a Super Bowl because of Ben Roethlisberger.

Marty won a Super Bowl...oh wait, nevermind.

DO WE WANT TO WIN REGULAR SEASON GAMES OR DO WE WANT TO WIN A GODDAMN ****ING SUPER BOWL?!?!?!?!?!
Shannahan won super bowls because of elway, coughlin because of manning, belicheck Brady. You can make that argument with any coach. BTW big Ben was shit in that super bowl game so to say they won it all because of him isn't exactly correct.

Yes I want to win a super bowl but you have to have a guy who can get you there. Cowher can.
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Cowher won a Super Bowl because of Ben Roethlisberger.
As a horrible 2nd year player.

That's bush league...
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Shannahan won super bowls because of elway, coughlin because of manning, belicheck Brady. You can make that argument with any coach. BTW big Ben was shit in that super bowl game so to say they won it all because of him isn't exactly correct.

Yes I want to win a super bowl but you have to have a guy who can get you there. Cowher can.
Dungy can't. And that was the original point.
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As a horrible 2nd year player.

That's bush league...
He doesn't win a Super Bowl without Big Ben.

But as Billay said, at least Cowher could GET THERE. Dungy couldn't even do that.
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He doesn't win a Super Bowl without Big Ben.

But as Billay said, at least Cowher could GET THERE. Dungy couldn't even do that.
Cowher went to 4 AFCC games.

He more than got there.

Cowher/Pitt became a lesser version of the Bills...
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John Fox is a good coach. Dick Vermeil is a good coach. Dan Reeves is a good coach.

As much as it pains me to say it, Bill Cowher is a good coach.

All of those guys built teams that could make it all the way to the Super Bowl without a franchise QB. Once they found their franchise QB, they won it all.

Tony Dungy is not one of them and doesn't belong in that discussion.
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