NFL Draft Geno Smith fans roll call - Page 439

**RealSNR** · 12:32 PM

NEW THREAD HEADER (11/17/12):

The list is gone. We will all be Geno Smith fans when he gets drafted by the Chiefs. For historical documentation's sake, I'll keep the list in a separate post on this thread: http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=3314

WHY GENO SMITH?
If you're wondering if Geno Smith is right for you, check out this brilliant post by Saccopoo:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=5388

Next, we have a few GIFs you may be interested in from the Oklahoma game. Insane potential. These are the elite throws that very few QBs can make. What more can I say? Geno Smith can be a franchise QB in the NFL, and the Chiefs need to take a shot on him.

GIF #1:

Spoiler!

GIF #2:

Spoiler!

GIF #3 (My favorite):

Spoiler!

HOW DO WE GET HIM HERE?

Glad you asked. I posted this checklist earlier. It probably belongs in the thread header, and will be updated as the Chiefs close out their season and start a new chapter in their franchise story.

Preparing for Geno Smith's Arrival In KC Checklist

1. [X] Lose games and acquire the #1 overall pick
2. [X] Get Pioli and the Patriot Way cronies the **** out
3. [X] Hire new GM/coach

OPTIONAL (but highly recommended):
4. [ ] Re-sign/tag Bowe, who really wants to play in KC with Geno
5. [ ] Re-sign/tag Albert

O.city · 12-20-2012, 05:48 PM

I guess no credit is given unless a guy is under pressure, goes from one side of the field to the other 3 times and throws a 50 yard laser underhanded.

kcbubb · 12-20-2012, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city

I'm curious as to how many "reads" some of you think a QB has once the ball is snapped?

awesome. so QBs don't make reads or manipulate the defense with their eyes. Brees is one of the best at it. We need someone with the ability to do this.

Pasta Little Brioni · 12-20-2012, 05:49 PM

You have vids of him doing that in college?

**The Franchise** · 12-20-2012, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcbubb

awesome. so QBs don't make reads or manipulate the defense with their eyes. Brees is one of the best at it. We need someone with the ability to do this.

Was Brees doing that from day 1?

RunKC · 12-20-2012, 05:51 PM

Unfortunately that is one of Geno's main flaws. You can't stare down WR's in the NFL and expect success. Cassel did that with Bowe and well....we know how that ended.

**The Franchise** · 12-20-2012, 05:52 PM

OH MY GOD GUYZ!!!! QBS CAN NEVER GET BETTER! IF HE WASN'T DOING IT IN COLLEGE.....HE'S NEVER GOING TO DO IT IN THE NFL!!!

Pasta Little Brioni · 12-20-2012, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM

You have vids of him doing that in college?

???????????????????????????

**The Franchise** · 12-20-2012, 05:54 PM

You want to see him under pressure and make a read?

O.city · 12-20-2012, 05:55 PM

In all seriousness, I'd say 85% of a Qb's "reads" are done presnap. Usually, in most route combinations, depending on defensive alignment, you will have a deep read, intermediate read, and a short read. As a Qb, you are taught to read deep to short, when time in the pocket permits. Other defensive alignments require a route underneath, pulling LBs up, a deep post pulling safeties back and an intermediate in the middle drop zone.

Zone vs. man reads are alot different. You can't always say a guy "locks" onto a wr, and know exactly that it is infact what he did. For instance, presnap if I know I have single converage on the outside with my speed guy and he's running a deep go or a flag, I'm "locking" on to him until I determine he's beating his man or not. If it's a post and I know there in single deep or cover 3 (unlikely route combo IMO) I've gotta move that guy in the middle and hope my guy beats the man under.

Watch some of Brady's 2007 tape. He locks onto Moss, nearly every play action pass and waits, because he knows presnap where and what he's seeing.

Most plays don't have reads on a single side, with a route or two on the other side that are usually the 3 or 4th read and you have on average 2.5 seconds to determine what to do.

**RealSNR** · 12-20-2012, 05:56 PM

That was against Marshall, Pest. That one doesn't count.

O.city · 12-20-2012, 05:59 PM

The fact of zone vs. man will determine alot of "reads". IIRC, OU plays alot of man and man under with a single safety.

Pasta Little Brioni · 12-20-2012, 05:59 PM

Show me a better college deep ball. Cmon bubb still waiting for Brees looking off safeties like a madman in college as well.

O.city · 12-20-2012, 06:03 PM

In that Brees film, most of his look offs, or the first few minutes I watched, teams are playing alot of straight zone. The Bears play Tampa 2, which makes it a must by the Qb to move guys around.

Pasta Little Brioni · 12-20-2012, 06:05 PM

It's not that O. It's comparing a 10 year pro headed for the HOF to a college Sr.

**The Franchise** · 12-20-2012, 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM

It's not that O. It's comparing a 10 year pro headed for the HOF to a college Sr.

This. It's ****ing stupid.

It's like coming out and saying that this team needs Joe Montana in his prime to be successful. If that was the case....no one would EVER draft a QB.

09-18-2012, 09:07 AM
RealSNR Special Teams ACE!!! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Where the hell is SNR Casino cash: $-1394792	Geno Smith fans roll call NEW THREAD HEADER (11/17/12): The list is gone. We will all be Geno Smith fans when he gets drafted by the Chiefs. For historical documentation's sake, I'll keep the list in a separate post on this thread: http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=3314 WHY GENO SMITH? If you're wondering if Geno Smith is right for you, check out this brilliant post by Saccopoo: http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=5388 Next, we have a few GIFs you may be interested in from the Oklahoma game. Insane potential. These are the elite throws that very few QBs can make. What more can I say? Geno Smith can be a franchise QB in the NFL, and the Chiefs need to take a shot on him. GIF #1: Spoiler! GIF #2: Spoiler! GIF #3 (My favorite): Spoiler! HOW DO WE GET HIM HERE? Glad you asked. I posted this checklist earlier. It probably belongs in the thread header, and will be updated as the Chiefs close out their season and start a new chapter in their franchise story. Preparing for Geno Smith's Arrival In KC Checklist 1. [X] Lose games and acquire the #1 overall pick 2. [X] Get Pioli and the Patriot Way cronies the **** out 3. [X] Hire new GM/coach OPTIONAL (but highly recommended): 4. [ ] Re-sign/tag Bowe, who really wants to play in KC with Geno 5. [ ] Re-sign/tag Albert Last edited by RealSNR; 01-04-2013 at 12:32 PM..
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12-20-2012, 05:48 PM	#6571
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12-20-2012, 05:55 PM	#6579
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-605936	In all seriousness, I'd say 85% of a Qb's "reads" are done presnap. Usually, in most route combinations, depending on defensive alignment, you will have a deep read, intermediate read, and a short read. As a Qb, you are taught to read deep to short, when time in the pocket permits. Other defensive alignments require a route underneath, pulling LBs up, a deep post pulling safeties back and an intermediate in the middle drop zone. Zone vs. man reads are alot different. You can't always say a guy "locks" onto a wr, and know exactly that it is infact what he did. For instance, presnap if I know I have single converage on the outside with my speed guy and he's running a deep go or a flag, I'm "locking" on to him until I determine he's beating his man or not. If it's a post and I know there in single deep or cover 3 (unlikely route combo IMO) I've gotta move that guy in the middle and hope my guy beats the man under. Watch some of Brady's 2007 tape. He locks onto Moss, nearly every play action pass and waits, because he knows presnap where and what he's seeing. Most plays don't have reads on a single side, with a route or two on the other side that are usually the 3 or 4th read and you have on average 2.5 seconds to determine what to do.
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12-20-2012, 05:59 PM	#6581
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-605936	The fact of zone vs. man will determine alot of "reads". IIRC, OU plays alot of man and man under with a single safety.
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O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-605936	In that Brees film, most of his look offs, or the first few minutes I watched, teams are playing alot of straight zone. The Bears play Tampa 2, which makes it a must by the Qb to move guys around.
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12-20-2012, 06:05 PM	#6584
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