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Old 12-21-2012, 04:14 AM  
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Fox Sports Poll: Who Should the Chiefs Draft at No. 1?


Dec 20. It’s a very weak quarterback class. Matt Barkley is not a first round talent. Geno Smith is not worthy of the top overall pick. Using the NFL’s overall standings following Week 15, here's my latest top 32 and the places I could see college football’s top talent ending up.

1. Kansas City Chiefs: Luke Joeckel, Offensive tackle, Texas A&M*

The Chiefs are due for a change at the quarterback position, that’s for sure. I’m just not sure that quarterback is in this draft. Make no mistake about it — there’s no Andrew Luck or Robert Griffin III in this 2013 draft class. There may not be a Ryan Tannehill, Nick Foles, Brock Osweiler, Brandon Weeden or Russell Wilson, either. I’ll get clobbered for this and so might their front office, but I think Kansas City is better off acquiring a veteran quarterback (Alex Smith or Matt Flynn, perhaps) than rolling the dice on a rookie quarterback who’s unworthy of the top overall selection for the sake of drafting one. Joeckel is one of the most promising offensive tackle prospects I’ve seen in the past five years. Very athletic. Nimble. He was fantastic in Mike Sherman’s scheme and even better in Kliff Kingsbury’s. This may not inspire the fan base, but it’s a franchise cornerstone.

6. San Diego Chargers: Geno Smith, Quarterback, West Virginia

Before you freak out over this one, hear me out. I don’t think the Chargers have quarterback as the top position of need, but if Smith slips to No. 6, he’s certainly worth considering here. Philip Rivers will be entering his 10th season in San Diego come August and he’s not getting any younger. At the very least, Smith can add another look for opposing defenses to prepare for. Hey, this is taking a chance, as we don’t even know who will be coaching this team next year, but it’s worth the consideration. Smith’s not a sure-thing top-five pick in my eyes, but he’s certainly an enticing selection if you’re San Diego.

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Old 12-21-2012, 02:12 PM   #106
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I love this, "there is no Luck or RGIII in this draft, don't draft a QB".


So, we are likely to not see a QB drafted in the top 5 for the next 20 years?
seriously

it's the new excuse for an age old stupidity

let's be clear, if you don't think the Chiefs should draft a QB with the #1 pick in the draft you are nuclear level reerun...
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Old 12-21-2012, 02:14 PM   #107
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seriously

it's the new excuse for an age old stupidity

let's be clear, if you don't think the Chiefs should draft a QB with the #1 pick in the draft you are nuclear level reerun...
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Old 12-21-2012, 02:26 PM   #108
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So Geno isn't good for 1 but he's good enough to take 6th? Gtfo.
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Can someone, anyone, explain to me the thought that someone isn't worth drafting 1st, but is worth drafting 5th?
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6. San Diego Chargers: Geno Smith, Quarterback, West Virginia

Before you freak out over this one, hear me out. I don’t think the Chargers have quarterback as the top position of need, but if Smith slips to No. 6, he’s certainly worth considering here. Philip Rivers will be entering his 10th season in San Diego come August and he’s not getting any younger. At the very least, Smith can add another look for opposing defenses to prepare for. Hey, this is taking a chance, as we don’t even know who will be coaching this team next year, but it’s worth the consideration. Smith’s not a sure-thing top-five pick in my eyes, but he’s certainly an enticing selection if you’re San Diego.

haha this guy is like legit reeruned
Sounds like a genius to me.

In reality, anyone who thinks Joeckel is going #1 is a complete idiot.
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Can someone, anyone, explain to me the thought that someone isn't worth drafting 1st, but is worth drafting 5th?
Not only that, he lists all of the QBs from last year, says there isn't anyone to the level of any of them, then says Geno at 6. Dumb...
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Can someone, anyone, explain to me the thought that someone isn't worth drafting 1st, but is worth drafting 5th?
That thought actually had validity before the rookie salary cap went into effect. Drafting Jamarcus Russell #1 at $61 mil over 5 years with $29 mil guaranteed was a franchise-killing disaster. The next #1 will make, what... $22 mil? If he ends up sucking, its a big setback - but its not a radioactive dirty bomb. Teams can now afford to take a flyer on the #1.
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That thought actually had validity before the rookie salary cap went into effect. Drafting Jamarcus Russell #1 at $61 mil over 5 years with $29 mil guaranteed was a franchise-killing disaster. The next #1 will make, what... $22 mil? If he ends up sucking, its a big setback - but its not a radioactive dirty bomb. Teams can now afford to take a flyer on the #1.
Yep. Same hit regardless.

Although some will argue that tackle is 'safer' because you might get a passable guard out of your 22 million dollar disaster.

You guys wouldn't know anything about that, would you?
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Yep. Same hit regardless.

Although some will argue that tackle is 'safer' because you might get a passable guard out of your 22 million dollar disaster.

You guys wouldn't know anything about that, would you?
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DRAFT NEEDS AND ORDER
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Manti Te'o-sure bet to not be a waste and defense would have best linebacker corp in NFL

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Mike Glennon or Tyler Bray or Ryan Nassib (syracuse) QB's

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Cobi Hamilton WR-burner w/ great hand -eye coordination and can beat you at line of scrimmage

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Rick Wagner-tackle Wisconson

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Ryan Otten TE San Diego State

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Rodney Smith-WR Florida State

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Drew Frey-SS -Cincinnatti

Possibles if available-Leon McFadden CB San Diego State,Will Davis -CB -Utah State,T J Moe-Mizzou-WR,
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