Schefter: the four GMs most in danger of losing their jobs are...

[DaWolf]

@AdamSchefter: The four GMs in most danger of losing jobs are Arizona’s Rod Graves, Cleveland’s Tom Heckert, Jacksonville’s Gene Smith, SD's A.J. Smith.

@AdamSchefter: Giants director of college scouting Marc Ross has emerged as a leading candidate to become the Panthers next general manager, per sources.

No Pioli?

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Rugby Thompson

pioli's not getting fired, i find it funny how people on this board think they're general managers or owners or even have the same amount of football knowledge as some of these executives. there's a reason why they're in the office making millions and you're sitting on this lame board with a bunch of virgins and mid life crisis alcoholic hicks.

it's a known fact we have to take geno but if we do, i know pioli could work around him. if we don't draft him then fire pioli instantly.

You shouldn't comment on other posters if you don't know their reputation. There we plenty of people with good sources or with a reputation for not flinging bullshit unless they absolutely know. And most of us know who they are and which information to trust.

Secondly... Piolis job shouldn't be saved before he has the chance to pass up on a qb like geno. There are a million reasons to fire him including his moronic qb choices. Unless you are satisfied with having no ability to hire a better coaching staff, continuing the ridiculous media blackout which has estranged fans from the players, and continuing his method of getting rid of peterson players like Carr, bowe, and Albert to arrogantly prove he can win with his own guys at a low cap. Unless you support a guy willing to force fit an obsolete scheme on to this team instead of adjusting the strengths of his players. Pioli needs to be fired. It's killing me that there is any chance he might save his job.

[Rugby Thompson]

doesn't matter, we can bicker and moan and whine about pioli all we want. if he stays and takes geno, everything will be forgiven.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Cleveland with Pioli......good grief, they might be more cursed than Kansas City.

I'm actually jealous of Cleveland. They have an owner unbelievably motivated to win and I bet he will shell out top dollar to do it. And they've had a lot of time to scout their targets. I have a feeling Cleveland will hit bigger than people think.

[Rugby Thompson]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I'm actually jealous of Cleveland. They have an owner unbelievably motivated to win and I bet he will shell out top dollar to do it. And they've had a lot of time to scout their targets. I have a feeling Cleveland will hit bigger than people think.

yeah i'm jealous of weeden too, im jealous of they're uniforms too. You could give me all of clevelands players, I still will take charles, bowe, berry, flowers, johnson, houston, hali anyday

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Rugby Thompson

doesn't matter, we can bicker and moan and whine about pioli all we want. if he stays and takes geno, everything will be forgiven.

No, it won't.

Because Romeo is actually a bigger problem. And pioli won't be able to hire good coaches because of how man bridges he's burnt and his stubborn inability to look beyond the tree, not just because of loyalty but because he only knows how to run one style of offense or defense.

And if you keep pioli, you lose bowe. Probably Albert too.

And if you keep pioli, we stay in 2-gap, even though we are pretty much the only team left that runs it.

Cassel isn't the only problem pioli has.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Rugby Thompson

yeah i'm jealous of weeden too, im jealous of they're uniforms too. You could give me all of clevelands players, I still will take charles, bowe, berry, flowers, johnson, houston, hali anyday

Kc has better talent, but Cleveland is in a better position. The browns were a decent team this year and will only get better with a very good gm and coaching staff.

If the chiefs clean house with a new gm and coaching staff, the chiefs are on a good track. If pioli sticks around, our situation sucks.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by Rugby Thompson

pioli's not getting fired, i find it funny how people on this board think they're general managers or owners or even have the same amount of football knowledge as some of these executives. there's a reason why they're in the office making millions and you're sitting on this lame board with a bunch of virgins and mid life crisis alcoholic hicks.

it's a known fact we have to take geno but if we do, i know pioli could work around him. if we don't draft him then fire pioli instantly.

Get the **** out of here, you mouth breathing ****stick.

[007]

Originally Posted by Rugby Thompson

doesn't matter, we can bicker and moan and whine about pioli all we want. if he stays and takes geno, everything will be forgiven.

nope it won't

[bowener]

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

I'll bet you a hundred million dollars and my genitals he is.

They are lightly used but heavily abused genitals. I'm not sure what the blue balls book value is on them.

[Ace Gunner]

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

I'll bet you a hundred million dollars and my genitals he is.

[kcxiv]

Originally Posted by Rugby Thompson

pioli's not getting fired, i find it funny how people on this board think they're general managers or owners or even have the same amount of football knowledge as some of these executives. there's a reason why they're in the office making millions and you're sitting on this lame board with a bunch of virgins and mid life crisis alcoholic hicks.

it's a known fact we have to take geno but if we do, i know pioli could work around him. if we don't draft him then fire pioli instantly.

lol, the reason why he's still in KC because of what? HIs terrrible drafts? 1 good player in Houston, 1 decent in Brrry, then thats it in 4 drafts. His suberb winning record against teams above 500? or was it the never held a lead in 10 games to start the season.

I fail too see why his "knowledge" of great players he's brought to the Chiefs has allowed him to keep his job!

WHat is it that anyone see's from Pioli's picks and his choices for signings had lead anyone even Clark Hunt to believe he's done a good job or even an average job! if 22 and 49 or whatever it is, is average, then we got a huge huge ****ing problem and this team needs to be sold or the fans need to keep trying to force black outs as in not going to the game, because i dont know about anyone else, im kind of embarrassed to be a Chiefs fan. The team sucks, one of the worst teams i have ever seen play in my 30 years of watching the NFL. no major free agents want anything to do with the Chiefs, because the GM is a dumb**** and Payton Manning one of the greatest players to ever play wouldnt even return his phone call.

I just dont see how any of this is positive in anyway shape or form. Im willing to listen if someone has anything positive to say outside of, he's saved Clark some millions.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by Rugby Thompson

pioli's not getting fired, i find it funny how people on this board think they're general managers or owners or even have the same amount of football knowledge as some of these executives. there's a reason why they're in the office making millions and you're sitting on this lame board with a bunch of virgins and mid life crisis alcoholic hicks.

it's a known fact we have to take geno but if we do, i know pioli could work around him. if we don't draft him then fire pioli instantly.

ORLY

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath

I was bored, thought I'd run some numbers - hadn't done any Chiefs-related homework in a while.

Anywho, discussion in another thread got me to thinking about the "talent level" on this team. People seem to be getting back in the habit of blaming specifically the QB and coaching, while claiming that this roster, and those before it are loaded with talent.

For a team that supposedly has talent, all they've done is beat up on the weak sisters of the poor over the last 4 years of the Pioli Nightmare.

23 wins in 4 years.

Those 23 wins came against teams with a collective 152-214 record and a .415 winning percentage. You can thank Green Bay dropping a metric ****ton of passes back in December of 2011 - take them out of the equation, and you're looking at a .375 winning percentage.

1 win in 4 years against a 10-win or better team.

3 wins in 4 years against a 9-win or better team.

20 wins against 8-8 teams or worse - 11 of those wins against teams with 6 wins or less.

So the "Executive of the Decade" was responsible for 5.75 wins per year, and we should consider ourselves lucky we "earned" that many.

In this era of parity in the NFL, a team with this much "talent" would be winning more than 5.75 games per year. Even without a QB. Even without a QB and HC.

Folks say that Mark Sanchez is a POS, and that we have more talent than the Jets. The same Jets that have won 34 games in the last 4 years. 11 more than the Chiefs.

Buffalo has shit for talent, plays in a brutal division, and has 2 fewer wins over the same time period.

Cleveland is hot garbage, and they've won 4 fewer games over the past 4 years. 1 game a year difference.

Jacksonville has 1 fewer win.

Miami has 4 MORE wins.

Oakland has 2 MORE wins.


The overwhelming majority of this board would claim that we have more "talent" than every one of the above teams.

The overwhelming majority of this board would claim that our QB play has been at least as good as the above teams, and in most cases, better.

The overwhelming majority of this board would claim that our coaching has been at least as good as the above teams, and in most cases, better.


The overwhelming majority of this board would be dead wrong on one of those three assessments. One of these things is not like the other.

Folks, it's time to wake up and realize that QB and HC are just part of the problem.

I see a lot of bad teams with bad QB's and bad HC's that have won as much or more than we have.

Sadly, the bottom line is that there isn't nearly as much "talent" on this roster that you think there is - and that we're a lot closer to the Cleveland's, Buffalo's and Jacksonville's of the NFL than you want to admit.

That sound like the resume of a general manager that isn't in danger of losing his position?

[Rugby Thompson]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

No, it won't.

Because Romeo is actually a bigger problem. And pioli won't be able to hire good coaches because of how man bridges he's burnt and his stubborn inability to look beyond the tree, not just because of loyalty but because he only knows how to run one style of offense or defense.

And if you keep pioli, you lose bowe. Probably Albert too.

And if you keep pioli, we stay in 2-gap, even though we are pretty much the only team left that runs it.

Cassel isn't the only problem pioli has.

fire romeo, hire nick saban

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by Rugby Thompson

pioli's not getting fired, i find it funny how people on this board think they're general managers or owners or even have the same amount of football knowledge as some of these executives. there's a reason why they're in the office making millions and you're sitting on this lame board with a bunch of virgins and mid life crisis alcoholic hicks.

it's a known fact we have to take geno but if we do, i know pioli could work around him. if we don't draft him then fire pioli instantly.

I find you funny dumbass! The "owner" had the team gifted to him.. The right sperm won, that's all he did - he swam a little faster! No he doesn't know "more about football" than most people. In fact with the distractions he has he might not know as much as some avid fans.

**** off dipshit!

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by Rugby Thompson

doesn't matter, we can bicker and moan and whine about pioli all we want. if he stays and takes geno, everything will be forgiven.

Bite me dumbass, nothing with Pioli is forgiven, he's a ****ing asshole!