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Old 09-18-2012, 09:07 AM  
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Geno Smith fans roll call

NEW THREAD HEADER (11/17/12):

The list is gone. We will all be Geno Smith fans when he gets drafted by the Chiefs. For historical documentation's sake, I'll keep the list in a separate post on this thread: http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=3314

WHY GENO SMITH?
If you're wondering if Geno Smith is right for you, check out this brilliant post by Saccopoo:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=5388

Next, we have a few GIFs you may be interested in from the Oklahoma game. Insane potential. These are the elite throws that very few QBs can make. What more can I say? Geno Smith can be a franchise QB in the NFL, and the Chiefs need to take a shot on him.

GIF #1:
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GIF #3 (My favorite):
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HOW DO WE GET HIM HERE?

Glad you asked. I posted this checklist earlier. It probably belongs in the thread header, and will be updated as the Chiefs close out their season and start a new chapter in their franchise story.

Preparing for Geno Smith's Arrival In KC Checklist

1. [X] Lose games and acquire the #1 overall pick
2. [X] Get Pioli and the Patriot Way cronies the **** out
3. [X] Hire new GM/coach

OPTIONAL (but highly recommended):
4. [ ] Re-sign/tag Bowe, who really wants to play in KC with Geno
5. [ ] Re-sign/tag Albert

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Old 12-29-2012, 09:16 PM   #7711
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I hate how the ESPN morons say said player is not the best on the board so don't take him. Well, we're drafting for need. We need a QB. By April 25th the Chiefs new GM and HC will decide who that is and draft him. Who cares if he's not the top overall player, he (whether that's Smith or Wilson) is the top overall QB and that's what we need. It's not a "reach" if you need that position, IMO.
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Old 12-29-2012, 09:19 PM   #7712
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I don't think there's a "dog in the hunt" for people beyond familiarity. For SEC fans, they've been following the Tyler Wilson hype for 3 years, since he came in and had record breaking numbers in relief of an injured Mallett against Auburn in 2010. While it got some national attention, that put him on the radar for those who faced him yearly since then. For Big 12 fans, they've been familiar with Geno since he came to WVU, I'd imagine. For me, he came on the radar this year, because I don't really follow Big 12.

I don't think it's about conference loyalty, I think it's about the familiarity that following certain teams brings with the players you face yearly.

I'd be curious to see which QB a Titans (or some other professional team with a largely SEC fanbase) board is embracing.
Well WV just joined the Big 12 this year so I really doubt that would get much love on here for that.
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Old 12-29-2012, 09:20 PM   #7713
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I'd be curious to see how the Smith vs. Wilson fans correlate to conference "loyalties" of Big 12 vs. SEC (predating recent realignment).

I don't think I could say which is better, but I'm much more familiar with Wilson's body for work, just as I imagine that most Big 12/Midwest fans are much more familiar with Smith's. I think that's hard to separate from the discussion. That being said, I know there are people on here whose love/knowledge of college football transcends conference and aren't as affected by such biases.
Geno was in the Big East prior to this year so I imagine the Big 12 angle has very little to do with it.

Me, I am an Iowa Hawkeye fan and watch a lot more Big 10 than anything else. That being said, I watch A LOT of college football, even Sun Belt and MAC games and such.

I've seen Geno and Wilson play a similar amount of times and I like Geno a little bit better.
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Old 12-29-2012, 09:21 PM   #7714
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Today? Why would I weight today heavily in comparison to the rest of his body of work? Today doesn't change ANYTHING for me. It's an end of season vacation/exhibition.

As for why I think he's superior - he has excelled in 2 completely different offensive systems under 2 different coaches.

On the other hand, without Bobby Petrino, Tyler Wilson struggled to distinguish himself. Much like Chris Redman and Brian Brohm.
I understand a bad game. Everyone has one. Brady has had a couple this year.

the problem I have here with his performance is basic evaluation. There is no way on the face of the earth that Geo Smith treated this as a vacation/exhibition. He knows as well as everyone else that this game and his play will be scrutinized in detail. Thats a lot of pressure. He didn't handle it well. That goes on his resume. It's just a part of his resume but it is now a permanent part of his resume.
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Old 12-29-2012, 09:23 PM   #7715
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How so? Looks to me like I laid out nothing but the facts, sir.
How about "worst offensive line in football" for starters.
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Old 12-29-2012, 09:25 PM   #7716
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Tyler Wilson. That's all I'm gonna say.
Mmmm. Close. Off by about 20 posts.

I'm not going to rip Wilson to defend Geno. I like Tyler Wilson. I just don't think this represents the true Geno more than his previous play. The reason players can be hard to project isn't just about changing scheme and the raised skill level. It's also about the fact players are likely to take an up and down line towards their peak, whatever that may be. Most are not going to take a straight line ascending up. Luck did that, and because of that a lot of people think any player without the straight line means they aren't worth taking early.

The difficulty is deciding which players will end up high on the scale once their line levels off. I don't think using Geno's "outbursts" are a smart way of going. I don't think Rivers is a parallel player emotionally. Too much speculating to sit here and talk about Geno's attitude, especially with some of the interviews he has done.

I have a feeling Wilson is going to come out of the pro days as the higher floor, Geno the higher ceiling. If we aren't there already.
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I understand a bad game. Everyone has one. Brady has had a couple this year.

the problem I have here with his performance is basic evaluation. There is no way on the face of the earth that Geo Smith treated this as a vacation/exhibition. He knows as well as everyone else that this game and his play will be scrutinized in detail. Thats a lot of pressure. He didn't handle it well. That goes on his resume. It's just a part of his resume but it is now a permanent part of his resume.
I can guarantee you he didn't treat it as a vacation - he's never beaten Cuse and said last week that he was on a PERSONAL mission to beat them.

At the end of the day, he's just one guy and no he didn't do himself any favors. The refs, weather, and his own coaching staff didn't either.
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Old 12-29-2012, 09:29 PM   #7718
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Mmmm. Close. Off by about 20 posts.

I'm not going to rip Wilson to defend Geno. I like Tyler Wilson. I just don't think this represents the true Geno more than his previous play. The reason players can be hard to project isn't just about changing scheme and the raised skill level. It's also about the fact players are likely to take an up and down line towards their peak, whatever that may be. Most are not going to take a straight line ascending up. Luck did that, and because of that a lot of people think any player without the straight line means they aren't worth taking early.

The difficulty is deciding which players will end up high on the scale once their line levels off. I don't think using Geno's "outbursts" are a smart way of going. I don't think Rivers is a parallel player emotionally. Too much speculating to sit here and talk about Geno's attitude, especially when interviews seem to keep the other side of the scale pretty heavy.

I have a feeling Wilson is going to come out of the pro days as the higher floor, Geno the higher ceiling.
Phillip Rivers BLAMES other players for his mistakes.

This isn't about outbursts.

Geno Smith got pissed off. He got leg whipped and it wasn't called.

He didn't come to the sideline and dress down his linemen or a WR like Rivers does.
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This.

I still have Geno #1 for me. Whole body of work.

But Wilson is a very close #2 and I'll be happy with either or.

As for today's game, if you're being honest you have to say it was a subpar game. Having said that, I don't know what QB in this draft class who would have excelled. That was one epic blizzard. The type of game where the team with the better running game & defense was going to win... And it did.
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And to completely counter my earlier theory, the people on Hogville seem to think that Wilson is going to go in the 3rd round and is a horrible prospect. But they're kind of shit heads like that, especially after this last season.

They love to hate.
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#13 is an eligible receiver AND he got tripped. Doubly bad call.
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And to completely counter my earlier theory, the people on Hogville seem to think that Wilson is going to go in the 3rd round and is a horrible prospect. But they're kind of shit heads like that, especially after this last season.

They love to hate.
I can't see Wilson going later than 15th in the FIRST ROUND. 3rd round just sounds silly but I guess anything can happen.
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I can't see Wilson going later than 15th in the FIRST ROUND. 3rd round just sounds silly but I guess anything can happen.
I don't think anyone would have believed that Mallett would fall as far as he did, either. Truth is that these guys will rise and fall in interviews and that's where Geno SHOULD excel. Wilson is a first round talent, but he also has some concerns that teams will address regarding his leadership.
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I don't think anyone would have believed that Mallett would fall as far as he did, either. Truth is that these guys will rise and fall in interviews and that's where Geno SHOULD excel.
Mallet had some serious question marks. See also: my last post, aka "getting busted for drugs"

In other words, QBs generally only free fall like that when they have off the field problems of some kind or another.
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Wilson threw his team under the bus after the game he missed. I guarantee you teams will dig deep into that in interviews and try to see if it was isolated or a character flaw. How that shakes out can help his stock rise to top five or drop him to the second round because some teams might take him off their board completely.
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