Chiefs Geno Smith is not worth the 1st overall pick

**Gonzo** · 01-01-2013, 01:41 PM

Geno is a 1st round QB. I have no doubt in my mind. He will be a damn good NFL QB if not top tier.
We have a 1st round selection and I don't care what position it is, 1st overall, 10th or 32nd. If you have the opportunity to grab him, you ****ing take it.

If he ends up being dogshit, fine. Do it again and again until you get it right. Don't get gunshy, (like this franchise did after Blackledge) because that's how you win in this league, (unless you luck out and get a Manning via FA because he wants to bump peni with Elway).

See:
Packers
Giants
Redskins
Ravens
49ers
Etc. etc. etc.

**Baby Lee** · 01-01-2013, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Gonzo

Geno is a 1st round QB. I have no doubt in my mind. He will be a damn good NFL QB if not top tier.
We have a 1st round selection and I don't care what position it is, 1st overall, 10th or 32nd. If you have the opportunity to grab him, you ****ing take it.

If he ends up being dogshit, fine. Do it again and again until you get it right. Don't get gunshy, (like this franchise did after Blackledge) because that's how you win in this league, (unless you luck out and get a Manning via FA because he wants to bump peni with Elway).

See:
Packers
Giants
Redskins
Ravens
49ers
Etc. etc. etc.

See, for me those two statements fail the smell test.

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Setsuna · 01-01-2013, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

See, for me those two statements fail the smell test.

This widget is EXACTLY what you need, I unequivocally guarantee it.

What if it isn't?

Oh well, then go get something else.

Baby Lee, that dude you had for your previous avatar is more attractive than that female. But as MANY have mentioned, just draft 2 QBs. What is the big deal? There aren't any Von Millers, Aldon Smiths, Patrick Petersons, Janoris Jenkins, Joe Hadens, JJ Watts, Derek Wolfes, Rob Gronkowskis, Jimmy Grahams in this draft. QB or bust man.

B_Ambuehl · 01-01-2013, 02:04 PM

Agree with the OP. Geno might be a first rounder but hes not #1 pick caliber. It makes me wonder how many people around here actually watch complete games and not just highlights. Someone should put togther a Geno Smith lowlight package (Clay?) and that would erase all doubt. He doesnt have the processing ability characteristic of top flight QBs. This team would be better off with Barkley, Flynn, or Kirk Cousins, all who could be had with something other than the #1 pick in the draft.

Of course with Pioli still at the helm it doesnt really matter as he'll **** it all up anyway, but just sayin'.

Saccopoo · 01-01-2013, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl

Agree with the OP. Geno might be a first rounder but hes not #1 pick caliber. It makes me wonder how many people around here actually watch complete games and not just highlights. Someone should put togther a Geno Smith lowlight package (Clay?) and that would erase all doubt. He doesnt have the processing ability characteristic of top flight QBs. This team would be better off with Barkley, Flynn, or Kirk Cousins, all who could be had with something other than the #1 pick in the draft.

Of course with Pioli still at the helm it doesnt really matter as he'll **** it all up anyway, but just sayin'.

Are you ****ing kidding me?

Don't you have to go clean out the commodes in Foxboro today or something?

B_Ambuehl · 01-01-2013, 02:17 PM

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Are you ****ing kidding me?

Don't you have to go clean out the commodes in Foxboro today or something?

I don't know who you have me confused with but:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=200220

and

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=203348

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He threw to a 2nd option exactly twice that entire video. Playing out of the spread with that offensive line and those receivers creating space and running with the football after the catch makes him look decent, but I don't think I've seen someone consistently stare down an initial read so hard. He's not gonna be able to get away with that to the same degree on this ball club.

How wrong I was.

Yall wanted the ****er(s), now it appears you're stuck with the worst of the worst. hahaha

**Bowser** · 01-01-2013, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl

Agree with the OP. Geno might be a first rounder but hes not #1 pick caliber. It makes me wonder how many people around here actually watch complete games and not just highlights. Someone should put togther a Geno Smith lowlight package (Clay?) and that would erase all doubt. He doesnt have the processing ability characteristic of top flight QBs. This team would be better off with Barkley, Flynn, or Kirk Cousins, all who could be had with something other than the #1 pick in the draft.

Of course with Pioli still at the helm it doesnt really matter as he'll **** it all up anyway, but just sayin'.

Why, why, WHY are the fans of this team so absolutely petrified of developing a quarterback of their own? Afaid we might have a couple of "down years"?

B_Ambuehl · 01-01-2013, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

Why, why, WHY are the fans of this team so absolutely petrified of developing a quarterback of their own? Afaid we might have a couple of "down years"?

There are better ways of managing the draft that could get you a QB without spending the #1 pick on one who isn't worth it.

**Bowser** · 01-01-2013, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl

There are better ways of managing the draft that could get you a QB without spending the #1 pick on one who isn't worth it.

Your way of "managing the draft" would net us a quarterback that has a lower ceiling than Geno. Pass.

Just for shits and giggles, who IS worth the #1 pick this year?

Saccopoo · 01-01-2013, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl

There are better ways of managing the draft that could get you a QB without spending the #1 pick on one who isn't worth it.

Sure there is, but Geno Smith is so worth it.

Ideal size, superb accuracy, doesn't put the ball into the defenses hands, excellent pocket awareness, near perfect release that is exceptionally fast, good athletic ability, very good arm, etc.

Tell me why Geno isn't worth the first pick and then tell me who you think is worth the #1 overall pick if Geno isn't. Please. Pretty please.

htismaqe · 01-01-2013, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl

There are better ways of managing the draft that could get you a QB without spending the #1 pick on one who isn't worth it.

Wow, just wow. When did you become a True Fan?

Saccopoo · 01-01-2013, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Setsuna

Baby Lee, that dude you had for your previous avatar is more attractive than that female. But as MANY have mentioned, just draft 2 QBs. What is the big deal? There aren't any Von Millers, Aldon Smiths, Patrick Petersons, Janoris Jenkins, Joe Hadens, JJ Watts, Derek Wolfes, Rob Gronkowskis, Jimmy Grahams in this draft. QB or bust man.

Actually, I'm pretty sure that there are

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Aldon Smiths, Patrick Petersons, Janoris Jenkins, Joe Hadens, JJ Watts, Derek Wolfes, Rob Gronkowskis, Jimmy Grahams in this draft.

Barkevious Mingo = Aldon Smith
Pat Peterson = Dee Milliner
JJ Watt = Sheldon Richardson
Rob Gronkowski = Tyler Eifert

Those are actually pretty close comparisons IMO in both size and playing style and college performance.

However, there isn't a QB of Geno Smith's level and ceiling in this draft.

You draft the QB.

Setsuna · 01-01-2013, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Actually, I'm pretty sure that there are

Barkevious Mingo = Aldon Smith
Pat Peterson = Dee Milliner
JJ Watt = Sheldon Richardson
Rob Gronkowski = Tyler Eifert

Those are actually pretty close comparisons IMO in both size and playing style and college performance.

However, there isn't a QB of Geno Smith's level and ceiling in this draft.

You draft the QB.

I admit I only know of Mingo and Richardson. I suppose they have the potential. But having the look isn't enough.

58-4ever · 01-01-2013, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Actually, I'm pretty sure that there are

Barkevious Mingo = Aldon Smith
Pat Peterson = Dee Milliner
JJ Watt = Sheldon Richardson
Rob Gronkowski = Tyler Eifert

Those are actually pretty close comparisons IMO in both size and playing style and college performance.

However, there isn't a QB of Geno Smith's level and ceiling in this draft.

You draft the QB.

Beat me to it. Good post.

58-4ever · 01-01-2013, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Setsuna

Baby Lee, that dude you had for your previous avatar is more attractive than that female. But as MANY have mentioned, just draft 2 QBs. What is the big deal? There aren't any Von Millers, Aldon Smiths, Patrick Petersons, Janoris Jenkins, Joe Hadens, JJ Watts, Derek Wolfes, Rob Gronkowskis, Jimmy Grahams in this draft. QB or bust man.

I agree with QB or bust, but there are a few elite players in this draft. Way too much speculation before the combine and end of bowl season.

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B_Ambuehl Veteran Join Date: Apr 2005 Casino cash: $9805405	Agree with the OP. Geno might be a first rounder but hes not #1 pick caliber. It makes me wonder how many people around here actually watch complete games and not just highlights. Someone should put togther a Geno Smith lowlight package (Clay?) and that would erase all doubt. He doesnt have the processing ability characteristic of top flight QBs. This team would be better off with Barkley, Flynn, or Kirk Cousins, all who could be had with something other than the #1 pick in the draft. Of course with Pioli still at the helm it doesnt really matter as he'll ** it all up anyway, but just sayin'. __________________ Who's decision was it to fire Romeo" - Coleman C Hunt: "It was my decision but it was one that Scott** agreed with" LOL
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