Geno Smith is not worth the 1st overall pick

[tk13]

Baby Lee is right... at this time last year in most fans eyes RGIII was clearly number 2, and some people liked him better than Luck. I don't know why people keep saying differently. I really don't care what McShay had to say.

I don't think Geno is either of those guys. It infuriates people to say this for some reason... but I don't think he was quite as sharp once the Heisman spotlight went on him and teams started preparing for him better. That said, when he's on his accuracy is tremendous. Absolutely tremendous A+ top shelf. For that reason alone he's worth a high draft pick.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by tk13

Baby Lee is right... at this time last year in most fans eyes RGIII was clearly number 2, and some people liked him better than Luck. I don't know why people keep saying differently. I really don't care what McShay had to say.

I don't think Geno is either of those guys. It infuriates people to say this for some reason... but I don't think he was quite as sharp once the Heisman spotlight went on him and teams started preparing for him better. That said, when he's on his accuracy is tremendous. Absolutely tremendous A+ top shelf. For that reason alone he's worth a high draft pick.

At this time last year, I would bet people here has seen TEN TIMES the number of games of Robert Griffin than they have of Geno now.

This fanbase knew RG3 MUCH BETTER because he played in the Big 12.

So at the end of the day, the only objective comparison is to look at what guys like Kiper and McShay had to say. On their boards, he was NOT 2. He wasn't even TEN.

As for the "infuriates" comment, nobody gets infuriated when you put up a legit criticism like you just did there. What is infuriating is people repeating misinformation over and over.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

At this time last year, I would bet people here has seen TEN TIMES the number of games of Robert Griffin than they have of Geno now.

This fanbase knew RG3 MUCH BETTER because he played in the Big 12.

So at the end of the day, the only objective comparison is to look at what guys like Kiper and McShay had to say. On their boards, he was NOT 2. He wasn't even TEN.

As for the "infuriates" comment, nobody gets infuriated when you put up a legit criticism like you just did there. What is infuriating is people repeating misinformation over and over.

WTF is this notion of an 'objective comparison?'

One side is skeptical of how convinced some are that Geno 'absolutely cannot miss, . . . .but if he does no big deal.'

Those convinced rebut with 'yeah, well people weren't sold on RGIII last year.'

'Yeah we were.'

'Well Kiper wasn't, and you don't count because you saw lots and lots of RGIII'

AGAIN, FTR, I'm not anti-Geno. I'm anti-failure to perform due diligence and cruise into the draft with this 'he's gonna be great, everyone else sucks, and it doesn't matter if he's a total bust because it's the gamble we HAVE TO take' attitude. That's just begging for him to be the next Akili Carr-Leaf.

[Crush]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

WTF is this notion of an 'objective comparison?'

One side is skeptical of how convinced some are that Geno 'absolutely cannot miss, . . . .but if he does no big deal.'

Those convinced rebut with 'yeah, well people weren't sold on RGIII last year.'

'Yeah we were.'

'Well Kiper wasn't, and you don't count because you saw lots and lots of RGIII'

AGAIN, FTR, I'm not anti-Geno. I'm anti-failure to perform due diligence and cruise into the draft with this 'he's gonna be great, everyone else sucks, and it doesn't matter if he's a total bust because it's the gamble we HAVE TO take' attitude. That's just begging for him to be the next Akili Carr-Leaf.

Then you clamor for Wilson, Barkley, or Bray. The QB is the most important position on the field and has to be the pick at no. 1.

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

That's just begging for him to be the next Akili Carr-Leaf.

None of those three put up the kind of completion percentages that Geno has. Carr came close in his senior year (which he was only able to approach duplicating one year in the pros), but I think the stats show that Smith is better than any of those three.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

WTF is this notion of an 'objective comparison?'

One side is skeptical of how convinced some are that Geno 'absolutely cannot miss, . . . .but if he does no big deal.'

Those convinced rebut with 'yeah, well people weren't sold on RGIII last year.'

'Yeah we were.'

'Well Kiper wasn't, and you don't count because you saw lots and lots of RGIII'

AGAIN, FTR, I'm not anti-Geno. I'm anti-failure to perform due diligence and cruise into the draft with this 'he's gonna be great, everyone else sucks, and it doesn't matter if he's a total bust because it's the gamble we HAVE TO take' attitude. That's just begging for him to be the next Akili Carr-Leaf.

Again, many HERE were completely sold on RG3 this time last year, even though many of the pundits weren't. Why? Because they had seen him play. A LOT.

Many of those same people are saying "Geno Smith isn't RG3" haven't seen Geno play even HALF the number of times they saw RG3.

Don't want me to call it objective comparison, fine. I'll call it ignorance instead.

[DomerNKC]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

At this time last year, I would bet people here has seen TEN TIMES the number of games of Robert Griffin than they have of Geno now.

This fanbase knew RG3 MUCH BETTER because he played in the Big 12.

So at the end of the day, the only objective comparison is to look at what guys like Kiper and McShay had to say. On their boards, he was NOT 2. He wasn't even TEN.

As for the "infuriates" comment, nobody gets infuriated when you put up a legit criticism like you just did there. What is infuriating is people repeating misinformation over and over.

i am sorry, which conference is West Virginia in again?

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by DomerNKC

i am sorry, which conference is West Virginia in again?

And how long have they been in that conference?

Dumbass.

[DomerNKC]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

And how long have they been in that conference?

Dumbass.

that would be a WHOLE season. Not enough games to judge his greatness? Or not enough wins for ya?

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DomerNKC

that would be a WHOLE season. Not enough games to judge his greatness? Or not enough wins for ya?

Yet in that one season, he had a what 42/6 TD to INT ratio? In a tougher conference?

[DomerNKC]

Originally Posted by O.city

Yet in that one season, he had a what 42/6 TD to INT ratio? In a tougher conference?

yeah, a conference nationally noted for poor secondary play.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by DomerNKC

that would be a WHOLE season. Not enough games to judge his greatness? Or not enough wins for ya?

So they saw basically 3 times more games of Griffins than Geno's. point stands. Domer fails. Again.

[DomerNKC]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

So they saw basically 3 times more games of Griffins than Geno's. point stands. Domer fails. Again.

no, we all saw 7-5 and his triumph against the national powerhouse syracuse. Comparing Griffin to Geno "toretta" smith is like comparing a Porsche to a mack truck. Hell, our first round pick from last year is faster, and he is a d lineman!!!