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Old 01-04-2013, 05:24 PM   #1
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What's bad about the choice? Kelly has an ascending defense and a QB who is very comfortable in the spread. And apart from Trent Richardson and Joe Thomas, he pretty much has license to tear that offense apart and build it in his own image.

It's so interesting that Kelly was #1 on everyone's list now all of a sudden he's not. Love Reid coming to KC, but the Browns hit a grand slam with this one. They decided to go big or go home. Kelly will either bust or he's going to be a huge success. I think he has the organizational skills and is a brilliant offensive mind and he's going to find some way to make it work.

Good for the Brownies. They deserve a big hire like this.
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Old 01-04-2013, 05:38 PM   #2
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What's bad about the choice? Kelly has an ascending defense and a QB who is very comfortable in the spread. And apart from Trent Richardson and Joe Thomas, he pretty much has license to tear that offense apart and build it in his own image.

It's so interesting that Kelly was #1 on everyone's list now all of a sudden he's not. Love Reid coming to KC, but the Browns hit a grand slam with this one. They decided to go big or go home. Kelly will either bust or he's going to be a huge success. I think he has the organizational skills and is a brilliant offensive mind and he's going to find some way to make it work.

Good for the Brownies. They deserve a big hire like this.
Chip Kelly wasn't even on my list, let alone #1.

His spread offense isn't going to work in the NFL. It's predicated on running the ball and having a massive speed differential between his guys and the opponent. The playing field is too level in the NFL.
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Old 01-04-2013, 05:41 PM   #3
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Chip Kelly wasn't even on my list, let alone #1.

His spread offense isn't going to work in the NFL. It's predicated on running the ball and having a massive speed differential between his guys and the opponent. The playing field is too level in the NFL.
Lotta guys were saying that "other teams have been picking Kelly's brain, etc."


But look at the teams doing that. Alot of teams have some of the concepts in their system, but as far as a complete offense of that? I'm not sold it would work, but I also don't think he's gonna stick strictly with it.
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Old 01-04-2013, 05:43 PM   #4
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Lotta guys were saying that "other teams have been picking Kelly's brain, etc."


But look at the teams doing that. Alot of teams have some of the concepts in their system, but as far as a complete offense of that? I'm not sold it would work, but I also don't think he's gonna stick strictly with it.
I don't either.

But like they were talking about on the telecast last night, he offense isn't going to determine success or failure in the NFL anyway.

Being an effective NFL head coach is SO much more than X's and O's.
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Old 01-04-2013, 05:45 PM   #5
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I don't either.

But like they were talking about on the telecast last night, he offense isn't going to determine success or failure in the NFL anyway.

Being an effective NFL head coach is SO much more than X's and O's.
Yeah, I like what he brings to the table in that situation too though.


He would have been an exciting hire in KC, in 2008. Not at this point, IMO.
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Old 01-04-2013, 05:57 PM   #6
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I don't either.

But like they were talking about on the telecast last night, he offense isn't going to determine success or failure in the NFL anyway.

Being an effective NFL head coach is SO much more than X's and O's.
Well, you know my criticism of Arians, that I think he's an X's and O's guy but not a big fan of him as head coach. From a coaching standpoint, Kelly is as good as it gets. Everything I've heard is he's incredibly organized, runs an incredible practice, and he's a guy who knows how to be tough to his players while still earning their respect. I wouldn't think him to be an interesting option unless he can do those things.

On the X's and O's... you have to assume he isn't going to be creative about making that NFL-oriented. That's where he's boom/bust. Maybe he can't scheme an NFL offense. It really sounds to me like he's pretty brilliant of an offensive mind, so I think he'll adapt to the game. And you wonder if he'll choose an offensive coordinator who can help counsel Kelly if his scheme gets too radical.

Great hire for the Brownies. It's the pick you make when you gamble -- they chose not to play it safe, and it could pay some huge dividends for them. Worst case scenario, the experiment doesn't work and 3 years from now, you have a team that's fast and ready for the spread but needs a scheme adjustment.
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Old 01-04-2013, 06:05 PM   #7
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Great hire for the Brownies. It's the pick you make when you gamble -- they chose not to play it safe, and it could pay some huge dividends for them. Worst case scenario, the experiment doesn't work and 3 years from now, you have a team that's fast and ready for the spread but needs a scheme adjustment.
What?

Worst case scenario is the experiment doesn't work, they've sold out to build for the spread, and have to completely gut the thing so that it resembles an NFL team again.

They're taking a HUGE risk.
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Old 01-04-2013, 06:22 PM   #8
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What?

Worst case scenario is the experiment doesn't work, they've sold out to build for the spread, and have to completely gut the thing so that it resembles an NFL team again.

They're taking a HUGE risk.
You're assuming he's going to sell out for a pure college spread. Pittsburgh is a good example of a team built around a more NFL-oriented spread, and they didn't have too much problem adapting to Haley's new offense.

Again... if he runs a stubbornly college-oriented spread, I think Cleveland is doomed. But I'm intrigued by Kelly because I'm very curious to see what scheme he runs, and very possibly it's something nobody was expecting.
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Old 01-04-2013, 05:51 PM   #9
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Hope he works out, would love to meet the Browns in the postseason soon.
We suck against the Browns.. ill pass.

Would love to see them make the playoffs next season though.
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Old 01-04-2013, 05:44 PM   #10
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Chip Kelly wasn't even on my list, let alone #1.

His spread offense isn't going to work in the NFL. It's predicated on running the ball and having a massive speed differential between his guys and the opponent. The playing field is too level in the NFL.
If he comes in and tries to make Oregon in the NFL he will suck. If he uses his tempo, attacking style and creativity to do something that looks more like a faster Saints (for example) he could kill it.
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If he comes in and tries to make Oregon in the NFL he will suck. If he uses his tempo, attacking style and creativity to do something that looks more like a faster Saints (for example) he could kill it.
This. I want innovation. Not necessarily Oregon.
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I can really see Weeden doing well in his system. OSU had a quick spread offense too.
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If he comes in and tries to make Oregon in the NFL he will suck. If he uses his tempo, attacking style and creativity to do something that looks more like a faster Saints (for example) he could kill it.
That puts a lot of pressure on the defense. He's going to have to temper it some, I think.
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That puts a lot of pressure on the defense. He's going to have to temper it some, I think.
Maybe. If he has a great D the pressure is really put on the other team.

Interesting hire, I'll enjoy watching to see how he pans out.
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Maybe. If he has a great D the pressure is really put on the other team.

Interesting hire, I'll enjoy watching to see how he pans out.
The thing is, at the end of the day, Chip Kelly relies on a MASSIVE talent gap.

Look at what they did against a near-NFL defense in Stanford.

That talent gap, particularly the speed gap, just isn't going to exist in the NFL.
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