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Old 01-07-2013, 06:44 PM   #1
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Whoa. There's a difference between a Franchise QB and a "potential" Franchise QB.

If you're choosing a QB #1 overall, you'd better be damn certain he's a franchise QB, or heads will roll.
I think now a days with the structure of the slotting system for draft picks, it allows to get away from a mistake in the top 10 easier
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Old 01-07-2013, 06:45 PM   #2
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I think now a days with the structure of the slotting system for draft picks, it allows to get away from a mistake in the top 10 easier
You're right, it does, but you can't just waste the number one pick on a long shot.
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Old 01-07-2013, 06:46 PM   #3
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You're right, it does, but you can't just waste the number one pick on a long shot.
so risky....oh no
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Old 01-07-2013, 06:49 PM   #4
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so risky....oh no
I am not risk averse. . . but I do not put all my money in winning the lottery either. I am not saying you do not take a QB at one. I am not a QB guru like these guys are. If they determine that they don't think any of the college qbs are worth dick shit, then go another direction.

I think there is a lot to be written yet on what scouts think of these qbs after pro days, interviews, and combines. We have only heard from talking heads at this point.
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Old 01-07-2013, 06:51 PM   #5
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I am not risk averse. . . but I do not put all my money in winning the lottery either. I am not saying you do not take a QB at one. I am not a QB guru like these guys are. If they determine that they don't think any of the college qbs are worth dick shit, then go another direction.

I think there is a lot to be written yet on what scouts think of these qbs after pro days, interviews, and combines. We have only heard from talking heads at this point.
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have fun drafting a LT...
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Old 01-07-2013, 07:01 PM   #6
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so risky....oh no
Well that's just plain dumb.

If the best QB in the draft is equal to a guy like Joey Harrington, you don't just take him because you need a QB.

I hope that Reid identifies a QB he feels worthy of the #1 overall pick.

But if he doesn't, I'm not going to ballistic, curse the franchise, etc. because I think he knows more than the fans at this point, even long suffering fans.
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Old 01-07-2013, 07:08 PM   #7
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Well that's just plain dumb.

If the best QB in the draft is equal to a guy like Joey Harrington, you don't just take him because you need a QB.

I hope that Reid identifies a QB he feels worthy of the #1 overall pick.

But if he doesn't, I'm not going to ballistic, curse the franchise, etc. because I think he knows more than the fans at this point, even long suffering fans.
you don't know what the outcome will be until you try...but you have to actually ****ing try to have any chance at success

but yeah, we should avoid the risk of failure...

that's worked great for 30 years...have fun with that

there's a QB in this draft...Reid's job is to draft him

it's that simple
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Old 01-07-2013, 07:16 PM   #8
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you don't know what the outcome will be until you try...but you have to actually ****ing try to have any chance at success

but yeah, we should avoid the risk of failure...
That's a GREAT philosophy. Take a position of need in the draft because you NEED that position filled.

That's worked out SO well with defensive lineman, hasn't it? Downey, Sims, Freeman, Siavii, Dorsey, Jackson, Poe, etc. and so on.

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there's a QB in this draft...Reid's job is to draft him

it's that simple
That's why Cleveland, Buffalo, Arizona, Jacksonville, Tennessee, Oakland, Tampa Bay and Kansas City all need a Franchise QB.

Simple.

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Old 01-07-2013, 07:19 PM   #9
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That's a GREAT philosophy. Take a position of need in the draft because you NEED that position filled.

That's worked out SO well with defensive lineman, hasn't it? Downey, Sims, Freeman, Siavii, Dorsey, Jackson, Poe, etc. and so on.



That's why Cleveland, Buffalo, Arizona, Jacksonville, Tennessee, Oakland, Tampa Bay and Kansas City all need a Franchise QB.

Simple.

what are you babbling about?

it is simple, it is not risk free...you keep obsessing about failure...why?

identify the best QB, draft him

simple...you can't guarantee success, you can only guarantee a chance at success by ACTUALLY DRAFTING A ****ING QB

i'd rather fail for trying then spend another 30 years failing for not trying...
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You're right, it does, but you can't just waste the number one pick on a long shot.
But with a guy like Reid and no clear cut no 1 player anywhere, and if you cant trade out then we need the most value at no 1 and thats QB
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You're right, it does, but you can't just waste the number one pick on a long shot.
They're ALL long shots for ****'s sake...
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I think now a days with the structure of the slotting system for draft picks, it allows to get away from a mistake in the top 10 easier
From a financial standpoint, absolutely.

But if the player chosen doesn't become a Franchise QB, you've burned a minimum of two years, if not three.
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From a financial standpoint, absolutely.

But if the player chosen doesn't become a Franchise QB, you've burned a minimum of two years, if not three.
That's going to happen with any QB the Chiefs go after. Whether it be Flynn, A. Smith, Freeman, or a kid in the draft. Either way you are looking at putting a couple years in with him.
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From a financial standpoint, absolutely.

But if the player chosen doesn't become a Franchise QB, you've burned a minimum of two years, if not three.
Yes but if Geno or Wilson, after evaluation by Reid and the front office and scouts, is a franchise QB than you take him. Cant worry about the risk
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