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**DaneMcCloud** · 01-07-2013, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Priest31kc

Thats my point.

Sanchez, Gabbert, Locker, Ponder & Bradford were all taken in the Top 12.

Geno, Wilson, Bray & Barkley are just as good as them, if not better, which is why I'm not understanding why this class is getting shit on by everyone.

They're getting "shit on" because, at this point in time, none of those players listed deserved to be first rounders.

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Originally Posted by Priest31kc

The Jets, Jags, Titans, Vikings & Rams didnt have a QB, so they took the best one available to them. They actually tried.

So what?

This franchise shouldn't draft a guy, just to draft a guy, and further waste the careers of guys like Hali, Charles, Bowe, Johnson, etc.

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Originally Posted by Priest31kc

We have yet to try. FOR 30 YEARS.

Dumb. I don't give a **** what the Talking Can says, it's ****ing DUMB to draft a QB that's unworthy of the #1 overall selection, just because it hasn't been done in 30 years.

DUMB, DUMB, DUMB, DUMB.

**DeezNutz** · 01-07-2013, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

This franchise shouldn't draft a guy, just to draft a guy, and further waste the careers of guys like Hali, Charles, Bowe, Johnson, etc.

Acquiring a QB through FA pretty much makes a certainty that you're wasting time. However, we don't know what the outcome will be if we draft a QB; the ceiling is exponentially higher.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-07-2013, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Acquiring a QB through FA pretty much makes a certainty that you're wasting time. However, we don't know what the outcome will be if we draft a QB; the ceiling is exponentially higher.

And it's also exponentially lower.

If you could have signed a guy that could lead you to playoffs, yet you drafted a piece of shit, you've further closed the window on your existing players.

Again, I'm good with however Andy Reid decides to move forward but if it's free agency or a trade back or a second rounder or even a first rounder in 2013, I'm not going shit myself.

And it seems like 75% of this forum will shit themselves if the selection is anyone other than Geno Smith.

**DeezNutz** · 01-07-2013, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

And it's also exponentially lower.

If you could have signed a guy that could lead you to playoffs, yet you drafted a piece of shit, you've further closed the window on your existing players.

Again, I'm good with however Andy Reid decides to move forward but if it's free agency or a trade back or a second rounder or even a first rounder in 2013, I'm not going shit myself.

And it seems like 75% of this forum will shit themselves if the selection is anyone other than Geno Smith.

My problem with trying to wait until the second is that you then have to be prepared to move up if QBs start coming off the board you believe someone else is targeting your guy.

I will flip my ****ing shit if we surrender next year's 1 or 2 to move back into the first to draft a guy we should have selected at 1/1.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-07-2013, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

My problem with trying to wait until the second is that you then have to be prepared to move up if QBs start coming off the board you believe someone else is targeting your guy.

I will flip my ****ing shit if we surrender next year's 1 or 2 to move back into the first to draft a guy we should have selected at 1/1.

Really? Wow, I wouldn't. I'd actually be thrilled that they came away with two high level starters in 2013.

The window is closing, fellas. And if you put Hali in a 3 point stance, his window will close more quickly.

htismaqe · 01-07-2013, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Really? Wow, I wouldn't. I'd actually be thrilled that they came away with two high level starters in 2013.

The window is closing, fellas. And if you put Hali in a 3 point stance, his window will close more quickly.

So the goal is wildcard weekend as quickly as possible? What happened to the real Dane?

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-07-2013, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

So the goal is wildcard weekend as quickly as possible? What happened to the real Dane?

The "Real Dane" isn't doing anything but discussing possibilities.

Discussion is a good thing, especially when the new head coach alluded to the fact that it may not be until next year that he drafts a QB.

At this point, I'm numb to it all. Nothing would surprise me.

**DeezNutz** · 01-07-2013, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Really? Wow, I wouldn't. I'd actually be thrilled that they came away with two high level starters in 2013.

The window is closing, fellas. And if you put Hali in a 3 point stance, his window will close more quickly.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings

Pretty good snapshot of how shallow this draft is in terms of elite talent. Sheldon Richardson is #17 overall on this list. I'm a Mizzou fan and I've seen every snap this kid has ever played in D1.

If he's #17 overall, that's not a great statement. He's a fine player, a nice player, but he's far from elite.

KChiefs1 · 01-07-2013, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings

Pretty good snapshot of how shallow this draft is in terms of elite talent. Sheldon Richardson is #17 overall on this list. I'm a Mizzou fan and I've seen every snap this kid has ever played in D1.

If he's #17 overall, that's not a great statement. He's a fine player, a nice player, but he's far from elite.

I saw a mock draft where he was going 3rd to the Faiders.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-07-2013, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings

Pretty good snapshot of how shallow this draft is in terms of elite talent. Sheldon Richardson is #17 overall on this list. I'm a Mizzou fan and I've seen every snap this kid has ever played in D1.

If he's #17 overall, that's not a great statement. He's a fine player, a nice player, but he's far from elite.

And Geno Smith is #11 (not that I put any stock into these things before The Combines) but it seems like most people here are fine with taking the #11 talent at #1 overall.

I wonder if the Chiefs will feel the same and that's the point of my comments.

**SAUTO** · 01-07-2013, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

My problem with trying to wait until the second is that you then have to be prepared to move up if QBs start coming off the board you believe someone else is targeting your guy.

I will flip my ****ing shit if we surrender next year's 1 or 2 to move back into the first to draft a guy we should have selected at 1/1.

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**BigRedChief** · 01-07-2013, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Acquiring a QB through FA pretty much makes a certainty that you're wasting time. However, we don't know what the outcome will be if we draft a QB; the ceiling is exponentially higher.

As far as I'm concerned........ Draft two QB's, get another in FA, bring in a vet QB and bring in another undrafted QB. Let the best one play.

**DeezNutz** · 01-07-2013, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

As far as I'm concerned........ Draft two QB's, get another in FA, bring in a vet QB and bring in another undrafted QB. Let the best one play.

I do believe we need to throw numbers at the situation, and we have the cap room to do everything you suggest above, including that vet. being a realistic option.

Coogs · 01-07-2013, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Acquiring a QB through FA pretty much makes a certainty that you're wasting time. However, we don't know what the outcome will be if we draft a QB; the ceiling is exponentially higher.

Drew Brees?

**DeezNutz** · 01-07-2013, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

Drew Brees?

And Brady was a 6th. You know how this works. Play the numbers.