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ShowtimeSBMVP · 01-12-2013, 07:53 PM

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John Dorsey agrees to be the Chiefs next GM. More info to come. #Chiefs

**the Talking Can** · 01-13-2013, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Dorsey + Reid = home run and an impressive one at that.

We'll see if they perform to their potential, though.

co-sign

and getting someone like dorsey - basically a packers lifer - away from them, along with snagging reid, says alot about the pitch Clark is making

he has to have gassed arrowhead of pioli's stink to get these guys in here...i have high hopes for Dorsey

good job, clark

CoMoChief · 01-13-2013, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

co-sign

and getting someone like dorsey - basically a packers lifer - away from them, along with snagging reid, says alot about the pitch Clark is making

he has to have gassed arrowhead of *****'s stink to get these guys in here...i have high hopes for Dorsey

good job, clark

I think maybe Clark courts players to come to KC...something that I don't think he's done in the past. Need to make other players around the league know that KC isn't a mess under Pioli anymore and that our owner is willing to do what it takes to win..and if that means pay good money, then at least he can show that he means it by giving that player the face to face at least...has to account for something I'd think.

**TimeForWasp** · 01-13-2013, 08:56 AM

Damn it!!!

mcaj22 · 01-13-2013, 08:57 AM

this guy better nail the franchise QB because he and Andy Reid can't build a defense to save their lives

ChiefMojo · 01-13-2013, 08:58 AM

Any how do you know that mcaj22?

milkman · 01-13-2013, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

this guy better nail the franchise QB because he and Andy Reid can't build a defense to save their lives

While I agree with you somewhat, it really doesn't matter.

The 9ers have the best defense in the league and the Seahawks dropped 42 on them, while the Pack dropped 31.

It's becoming a league, more and more, that you have to have a QB and pass rushers.

Everything else is just window dressing.

TheGuardian · 01-13-2013, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

While I agree with you somewhat, it really doesn't matter.

The 9ers have the best defense in the league and the Seahawks dropped 42 on them, while the Pack dropped 31.

It's becoming a league, more and more, that you have to have a QB and pass rushers.

Everything else is just window dressing.

This.

And the next time someone talks about that 9ers defense as being "almost 2K Ravens" like I'm going to bitch slap them through the internet.

Seriously, that defense looks great against shitty offenses. That defense is not "for real" though. They don't hold up against the elite offenses and that's what the truly great defenses do. Shit we had better defenses here during the 90's than that 9ers defense. It's a joke.

DTLB58 · 01-13-2013, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan

One thing that has changed, has given me hope and no one can doubt is Clark Hunt's devotion. Now that we know it's not about money to him, well solely about money, we can move past that and look to the future.

Hence the change in my sig post!

mcaj22 · 01-13-2013, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

While I agree with you somewhat, it really doesn't matter.

The 9ers have the best defense in the league and the Seahawks dropped 42 on them, while the Pack dropped 31.

It's becoming a league, more and more, that you have to have a QB and pass rushers.

Everything else is just window dressing.

so i'll ask you, based on your personal opinion,

you do not think there is one good defense currently out of all 32 teams? That every team in the hunt is because of good QB play?

2 of the QBs left are rookies essentially, though they are playing well, you dont think it's because they have a good defense that has carried them this far? You dont actually consider Russel Wilson and Colin Kaepernick a top 10 NFL QB do you?

scho63 · 01-13-2013, 10:07 AM

Well, there is no way to say that Clark hasn't gone out and hired serious talent to turn the Chiefs around.

I am putting all my faith in these men to QUICKLY make sure the Chiefs are a perennial playoff team once again.

This includes the draft and whoever they select: I'm fine with it. They know how to evaluate talent-us fans do not.....

LET'S GO CHIEFS 2013!!! CAN'T WAIT

milkman · 01-13-2013, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

so i'll ask you, based on your personal opinion,

you do not think there is one good defense currently out of all 32 teams? That every team in the hunt is because of good QB play?

2 of the QBs left are rookies essentially, though they are playing well, you dont think it's because they have a good defense that has carried them this far? You dont actually consider Russel Wilson and Colin Kaepernick a top 10 NFL QB do you?

Good defense is relative to era.

Both the 9ers and Seahawks have tough physical defenses that, along with outstanding running games, led their teams to these playoffs, while allowing the OC to bring the young QBs along at a pace that they could manage.

But in the playoffs, the QBs have to step up and make plays.
Both Wilson and Kaepernick have done that in their respective games.

I am not ready to annoint either Kapernick or Wilson top 10, though their potential is (or should be) obvious to every observer.

The old adage that defense wins championships in no longer true.

QBs and pass rush win you championships in today's NFL.

mcaj22 · 01-13-2013, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

QBs and pass rush win you championships in today's NFL.

two things the Chiefs currently do not have lol

**mlyonsd** · 01-13-2013, 10:16 AM

IMO rule changes over the years have benefited the offense. As the game evolves towards the offense an elite QB becomes more important.

mcaj22 · 01-13-2013, 10:19 AM

but the question is, what is an elite QB.

How many elite QBs are there in this game. We just watched two elite QBs yesterday lose to teams with much more inferior QBs. So what was it? Bad elite QB play or good defenses stopping those QBs with their average to good QB playing well

I guess my question is, how good does the QB have to be for Chiefs fans to be satisfied? Elite QB and poor defense or Good QB and Good defense? What is the better combination?

milkman · 01-13-2013, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

but the question is, what is an elite QB.

How many elite QBs are there in this game. We just watched two elite QBs yesterday lose to teams with much more inferior QBs. So what was it? Bad elite QB play or good defenses stopping those QBs with their average to good QB playing well

I guess my question is, how good does the QB have to be for Chiefs fans to be satisfied? Elite QB and poor defense or Good QB and Good defense? What is the better combination?

Your goal should be to build as complete a team as possible, while making every effort t get the best QB possible.

But the two absolute must haves are QB and pass rush.

I think you can win with a Joe Flacco and an outsanding supporting cast.

I don't think you can say the same with Matt Schaub, though we need to see more of him as a playoff performer.

I am certain that you can not win a SB with the best defense in the league if you have a bottom half QB.

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mcaj22 MVP Join Date: Feb 2010 Casino cash: $10014454	but the question is, what is an elite QB. How many elite QBs are there in this game. We just watched two elite QBs yesterday lose to teams with much more inferior QBs. So what was it? Bad elite QB play or good defenses stopping those QBs with their average to good QB playing well I guess my question is, how good does the QB have to be for Chiefs fans to be satisfied? Elite QB and poor defense or Good QB and Good defense? What is the better combination?
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