Hunt willing to trade pick per kffl

[kczoo]

Damn

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by royr17

Why not, he's a 2nd round quarterback, according to reports Andy Reid is pretty good at developing QB's, why not take a athletic quarterback like him in the 2nd if you dont draft a QB in the first round.

Because E.J. Manuel isn't good.

[suds79]

Originally Posted by penguinz

At least two documented while playing for Arkansas. Since college does not have to report injuries there is good chance it has been more.

Okay so we can say for sure 2 because you could throw out the possibly more option about anybody.

Is it a concern? Yes. But he's still a very close #2 in my book. Too much talent IMO to take him off.

[bevischief]

Originally Posted by @KCsporting

Why is it so hard for people to understand that the Chiefs arent going to give any information away? You guys are stressing out over nothing. How many more threads are we going to have like this?

There is going to 100s of them...

[teedubya]

I have 100% faith in Dorsey and Reid. I'm worried ZERO%. Whatever they choose is fine with me.

[HolyHat]

Originally Posted by bevischief

There is going to 100s of them...

Can't wait...

[bevischief]

[notorious]

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

It would be if we could draft back to the 5-10 spot and pick up another pick. I feel there is better value in that spot. There just isnt a consensus #1 overall....just for that reason, I think it's growing to be tough to trade out of the #1 overall spot,

Just wait until the combine.

Somebody will seperate and cause the entire media to jizz.

[Fat Elvis]

Originally Posted by Brock

If Smith is worth getting into a bidding war for, we should just take him. JMO.

I agree, but I just don't think the FO sees the value in him. Clark has pretty much flat out said that they don't think there is a franchise QB in the draft. I think Reid sees some QBs that he thinks would make servicable QBs under his mentoring, but given the Cards and Bills stated desperation, I wouldn't be surprised to see Reid and Dorsey try to take advantage of them and fill a lot of other holes on the team and still get a QB that they rate in the same neighborhood as Geno.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by Fat Elvis

I agree, but I just don't think the FO sees the value in him. Clark has pretty much flat out said that they don't think there is a franchise QB in the draft. I think Reid sees some QBs that he thinks would make servicable QBs under his mentoring, but given the Cards and Bills stated desperation, I wouldn't be surprised to see Reid and Dorsey try to take advantage of them and fill a lot of other holes on the team and still get a QB that they rate in the same neighborhood as Geno.

IF I felt Geno is not worh the # 1 pick, that's exactly what I'd do. For the record - I hope that's what they do.

[Oh Snap]

Oh **** that noise!!! We EARNED the number overall pick! Anyone remember that 2-14 season a few years ago? The year we picked THIRD overall in 2009? We'll pick first overall, and Hunt WILL LIKE IT!!!1

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by Fat Elvis

I agree, but I just don't think the FO sees the value in him. Clark has pretty much flat out said that they don't think there is a franchise QB in the draft. I think Reid sees some QBs that he thinks would make servicable QBs under his mentoring, but given the Cards and Bills stated desperation, I wouldn't be surprised to see Reid and Dorsey try to take advantage of them and fill a lot of other holes on the team and still get a QB that they rate in the same neighborhood as Geno.

Clark is a fan. And I wouldn't believe anything that anybody says this soon before the draft.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

It would be if we could draft back to the 5-10 spot and pick up another pick. I feel there is better value in that spot. There just isnt a consensus #1 overall....just for that reason, I think it's growing to be tough to trade out of the #1 overall spot,

There is unquestionably a consensus #1 for the Chiefs:

Geno Smith

He is, without question, the best quarterback in this draft.

As well, there is no one else in this draft that has been as good at their respective positions at a position of impact then Geno Smith has over the past three collegiate football seasons.

Jarvis Jones lacks elite speed and has a degenerative neck injury that the USC medical staff wouldn't clear him of.

Luke Joeckel wasn't even the best offensive tackle prospect on his team and he's coming from a true first read, dump off spread system with Fran Tarkenton Jr. as his QB. The guy hasn't truly pass blocked and will require a huge learning/adjustment curve at the next level. And he's not the prospect that Okung, Long or Thomas were. In fact, I don't think he's at the same level as Nate Solder or Anthony Castonzo either. He's more of a poor man's Matt Kalil. A finesse guy who is going to have to be in a zone block scheme with a solid guard next to him.

Chance Warmack is a guard. And he's not at the same level as David DeCastro from last year, who went #24. And he's not even the best O-line guy on his team, which would be Barrett Jones, who has to have lisfranc surgery.

DeMontre Moore, Barkevious Mingo and Dion Jordan are all the exact same player. Very good, but not Von Miller good and they all have to develop better run defense skills.

Starlite Lotulelei is a very good player. But he's not an upfield disruptor and Ohio State's John Hankins might even be a more versatile player than Lotulelei. I'd even argue that taking Star's teammate Joe Kruger would be a better option for the Chiefs than Star himself. And after taking Poe with the eleventh pick last season, anyone wanting the exact same guy with the #1 this season should be shot in the face.

Bjoern Werner is tenacious and tough. But he got his sacks in bunches and there were stretches where he was a non-factor.

Dee Milliner is a very good, very solid player. But so are Xavier Rhodes, David Amerson and Jon Banks - and one of those guys will be available at the top of the second round.

There will be no Geno at the top of the second round. There will be no Geno if the Chiefs trade out of the #1 spot.

There are a lot of good players in this draft. I think its deep and talented. But no one has been as good as Geno has been at there respective positions, and then you consider that Geno plays the most critical position on the field, then it's a no brainer.

Trading down is going full reerun. Not picking Geno is going full reerun+.

[Fat Elvis]

Originally Posted by kcchiefsus

And you know this how? Let me guess, from SPECULATION you read in the media. There is not a single team in the nfl that needs more help at quarterback than the chiefs.

You should really check out the Cards.

John Skelton: 2 TDs 9INTs 55.4 QB Rating
Ryan Lindley: 0 TDs 7INTs 46.7 QB Rating

vs

Matt Cassel: 6TDs 12INTs 66.7 QB Rating
Brady Quinn: 2TDs 8INTs 60.1 QB Rating

BRADY QUINN WAS BETTER THAN THE CARDS QBs.

[saphojunkie]

Originally Posted by Fat Elvis

I agree, but I just don't think the FO sees the value in him. Clark has pretty much flat out said that they don't think there is a franchise QB in the draft. I think Reid sees some QBs that he thinks would make servicable QBs under his mentoring, but given the Cards and Bills stated desperation, I wouldn't be surprised to see Reid and Dorsey try to take advantage of them and fill a lot of other holes on the team and still get a QB that they rate in the same neighborhood as Geno.

Well, if Reid doesn't think Geno Smith is a franchise guy after watching all of the tape, then I am fine with not taking him, I guess. I'm not happy about it, but I won't fly a banner.

That doesn't mean that Reid can't be wrong, obviously. I am sure he has passed on franchise quarterbacks in the past. However, I think it is at least as likely that we are all drooling over a guy we think is a franchise QB but is not.

At this point, one of us is dead wrong. So, who is it? The single expert who, even in a field of knowledgeable professionals, is considered one of the better assessors of talent? Or the large group that lacks the expertise, but makes up for it in wide confirmation of opinion?

I'll say it's a 50/50 at this point.

Maybe the Chiefs are trying to trade down, because the truth is we have multiple holes and we'd just love to get our hands on both Geno and a pass rusher, or Wilson AND a cornerback.

And maybe the Chiefs believe that the hate for this QB class is widespread and no one is going to jump on a guy. Maybe they believe they can trade down and still land a guy who is one of the most talented later in the first round.

It's not crazy - that shit happens. I'm not going to freak out just yet, even though all signs point to the Kansas City Chiefs taking their first ever #1 overall draft pick and passing on a franchise quarterback, despite having some of the historically worst QB play ever the past two years.

Le sigh...

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

protect the QB then...

You do realize that they took a very solid left tackle prospect in the third round last year?

You do realize that they took a very solid left tackle prospect in the second round last year? (And yes, I know that they "envisioned" Allen at guard, but he was a four year starter at left tackle and played the position extremely well.)

You do realize that they took the best guard (and I'd argue best all-around offensive lineman) in the draft in 2011?

You do realize that they took an All-American guard in 2010 in the third round?

You do realize that they signed one of the top three right tackles in the NFL as a free agent last year?

You do realize that they already have a top 15 left tackle coming into the prime of his career that they could franchise, but will most likely resign?

I mean, seriously...

Taking a offensive lineman in anything above the sixth or seventh round for depth this next draft would be so completely stupid that it might actually redefine the definition of stupid. Blackbobian commentary at it's finest.