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Old 01-27-2013, 02:23 PM   #1
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Don't tell him that. He exemplifies that whole Jags board. Scared as shit to draft a QB at all. It's defeatist and stupid.
There is no QB in the draft worth a #3 pick much less the #1

We need a pass rusher first , Our running game will be fine now that the zbs shit is gone and we are going back to the pbs .

We are weak at CB so a pass rusher is essential to limiting a QB time to throw the ball.

Raiders will not take a QB with their first pick
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Old 01-27-2013, 02:31 PM   #2
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There is no QB in the draft worth a #3 pick much less the #1


Who is worth the #1 then?
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Old 01-27-2013, 02:33 PM   #3
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There is no QB in the draft worth a #3 pick much less the #1
I don't think there is a QB in this draft who would be a top 10 pick most years.

Some years there are good QB classes. Some years there are David Carr / Joey Harrington classes.
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Old 01-27-2013, 02:38 PM   #4
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I don't think there is a QB in this draft who would be a top 10 pick most years.

Some years there are good QB classes. Some years there are David Carr / Joey Harrington classes.
Oh there will be some gems to be had but they will have to be found in this draft.
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Old 01-27-2013, 02:41 PM   #5
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Oh there will be some gems to be had but they will have to be found in this draft.
Sometimes you HAVE to draft based upon need rather than BPA in the Chiefs scenario.
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Old 01-27-2013, 02:51 PM   #6
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Sometimes you HAVE to draft based upon need rather than BPA in the Chiefs scenario.
Oh I agree... But do the Chiefs really need a QB more than any other need on this team.... Thats the question
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Old 01-27-2013, 02:52 PM   #7
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Oh I agree... But do the Chiefs really need a QB more than any other need on this team.... Thats the question
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Old 01-27-2013, 02:55 PM   #8
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You can post this shit all you want but just because this forum has a hard-on for a qb does not mean that is the direction Andy Reid wants to go right now...
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Old 01-27-2013, 02:57 PM   #9
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Oh I agree... But do the Chiefs really need a QB more than any other need on this team.... Thats the question
It's the question the way 'is the sky blue?' Is the question. Of course it ****ing is, and of course they ****ing do.
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Old 01-27-2013, 03:10 PM   #10
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Oh I agree... But do the Chiefs really need a QB more than any other need on this team.... Thats the question
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Old 01-27-2013, 03:37 PM   #11
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Oh I agree... But do the Chiefs really need a QB more than any other need on this team.... Thats the question
What position do we have a bigger need at?
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Old 01-27-2013, 03:45 PM   #12
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What position do we have a bigger need at?
Seriously, I do not know... You guys were 2-14 and we were 4-12 , neither one of us are 1 player away
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I don't think there is a QB in this draft who would be a top 10 pick most years.

Some years there are good QB classes. Some years there are David Carr / Joey Harrington classes.
Where was RG3 rated this time last year?

IT IS WAY TOO SOON TO KNOW WHO IS GOING WHERE
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Old 01-27-2013, 02:41 PM   #14
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I don't think there is a QB in this draft who would be a top 10 pick most years.
This is such a hot steaming pile of dogshit.

2011 NFL Draft:
1) Cam Newton
8) Jake Locker
10) Blaine Gabbert
12) Christian Ponder

2012 NFL Draft:
1) Andrew Luck
2) Robert Griffin III
8) Ryan Tannehill

Geno Smith would be the number two QB in 2011 and the number three QB in 2012 and absolutely would have been drafted top 10 both years.
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Old 01-27-2013, 03:14 PM   #15
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I don't think there is a QB in this draft who would be a top 10 pick most years.

Some years there are good QB classes. Some years there are David Carr / Joey Harrington classes.
You're looking at it completely wrong. It doesn't really matter that Mel Kiper and Todd McShay think there's no quarterback in this draft who's worth a top 10 pick or a #1 overall pick. I guarantee you there is one. The trick is to figure out who it is, and then to draft him. When you have the #1 overall pick, no team can take him away from you. That's a rare luxury.

The franchise quarterbacks listed below weren't considered good enough to be top 10 picks when they came out of college:

Brady - 6th round
Flacco - 18th overall
Roethlisberger - 11th overall
Aaron Rodgers -24th overall
Drew Brees - 32nd overall
Colin Kaepernick - 2nd round (36th overall)
Russell Wilson - 3rd round (75th overall)

Are you going to tell me that guys like Brady, Roethlisberger and Rogers weren't REALLY worth a #1 overall pick when they came out?

The fact that they were drafted so low doesn't mean they weren't good enough to be a top 10 pick. All it means is that the evaluation process is very imprecise and it's difficult to get it exactly right.

A team that drafted any of the guys listed above would NOT have wasted its #1 overall pick, no matter what guys like Kiper and McShay think.

That's the point. It's up to John Dorsey and Andy Reid to figure out who the best quarterback is in this draft, and then DRAFT HIM. It doesn't matter that you have to use the #1 overall pick to get him.
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