Chris Weinke (IMG Academy) Talks with Danny Parkins about upcoming QB class.

[mdchiefsfan]

http://www.610sports.com/topic/play_...udioId=6212845

Pretty good stuff in here guys. Sorry if Q.

[O.city]

If Geno thinks he can not do anything after the end of the regular season he had and still go 1, he's either way off, or we are being told alot of wrong things.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by O.city

If Geno thinks he can not do anything after the end of the regular season he had and still go 1, he's either way off, or we are being told alot of wrong things.

He will have a pro day. That's certainly not doing "nothing".

And I'd say at this point that it's MUCH more likely we're being told a lot of wrong things.

These guys and their agents don't generally just **** around when there's millions on the line...

[keg in kc]

Isn't this is a thread about the how he's doing at the IMG Academy? So he's clearly doing something.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

He will have a pro day. That's certainly not doing "nothing".

And I'd say at this point that it's MUCH more likely we're being told a lot of wrong things.

These guys and their agents don't generally just **** around when there's millions on the line...

I guess if thats what you want to believe, thats fine. But why is that more likely?


If he just decides to have a pro day, thats as close to doing nothing as he can get. IMO, shows he's a little afraid of pressure.

[BossChief]

I think Geno shows confidence in himself by NOT opting to throw at the combine.

He puts all the pressure on himself at his proday to go out and knock it out of he park.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by BossChief

I think Geno shows confidence in himself by NOT opting to throw at the combine.

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[Thig Lyfe]

Originally Posted by PGM

Tyler Thigpen: Inaccurate 60 percent of the time, every time.

yeah but he's accurate 40 percent of the time which is almost more than 60

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Top guys don't throw at the combine. Sanchez and Cam were the only ones I can remember doing so.

1) they are throwing to guys hey have no chemistry with because they just met a day or two ago. Ig Geno expects the guy to have wheels and puts it out there and overthrows him, it is a mark AGINST him...if the receiver doesn't run a clean route and Geno s throwing to a spot he should be and isn't, that marks against him. Geno can go out there and throw 75 PERFECT passes and half of them can hit the ground because of the receiver and Geno looks bad because of it.

2) most top prospects know that if they make gms and scouts wait till their proday, more will come to watch and that gives the teammates extra exposure. Not only that, but he is then throwing to guys he knows and has chemistry with and knows how they run their routes. That let's him be confident in his throws and really let it rip.

There are other reasons top guys don't throw at the combine, but those are the major ones.

Saying he is a pussy if he opts not to throw at the combine isn't accurate.

Jmo

Are scouting departments now run by 12 yr old girls?

They're going to give Geno a hell of a lot better analysis than "Caught or missed". Are you telling me that Geno's guys wouldn't have given a script to the scouts or that Andy Reid won't be able to tell the difference between a bad throw and simple bad chemistry?

Gimme a break.

Again, I don't really care about history - I care about what this prospect is doing in this draft. If he doesn't throw, it's because he's worried he'll hurt his draft stock - period.

Given how much of a wildcard this draft class is, that bothers me and it doesn't matter to me how many QBs have chosen not to throw before him.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by O.city

I guess if thats what you want to believe, thats fine. But why is that more likely?


If he just decides to have a pro day, thats as close to doing nothing as he can get. IMO, shows he's a little afraid of pressure.

Or it shows that he understands his situation and is smart enough not to **** it up.

Quite frankly, we could do this all day. You could take any individual piece of info and spin it for or against.

We simply don't know what's going on.

But when it comes right down to it, these guys' agents aren't stupid. They make the bank for a reason. Gotta trust that he's doing it right.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Are scouting departments now run by 12 yr old girls?

They're going to give Geno a hell of a lot better analysis than "Caught or missed". Are you telling me that Geno's guys wouldn't have given a script to the scouts or that Andy Reid won't be able to tell the difference between a bad throw and simple bad chemistry?

Gimme a break.

Again, I don't really care about history - I care about what this prospect is doing in this draft. If he doesn't throw, it's because he's worried he'll hurt his draft stock - period.

Given how much of a wildcard this draft class is, that bothers me and it doesn't matter to me how many QBs have chosen not to throw before him.

If its that easy, then why don't the top guys ever do it?

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by BossChief

I think Geno shows confidence in himself by NOT opting to throw at the combine.

He puts all the pressure on himself at his proday to go out and knock it out of he park.

Throwing only once in the most highly controlled environment possible and on terms that you set is showing confidence in himself?

Confidence is knowing that he can do it and knowing damn sure that he can repeat it.

You've now gone 'cult of Geno' twice in this thread alone. No, he doesn't have a top 10 NFL arm when his feel go wonky, that's just insanity. And no, refusing to throw at the combine is not because he's super-confident.

This is the kind of crap that makes it more difficult to defend sensible arguments.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Or it shows that he understands his situation and is smart enough not to **** it up.

Quite frankly, we could do this all day. You could take any individual piece of info and spin it for or against.

We simply don't know what's going on.

But when it comes right down to it, these guys' agents aren't stupid. They make the bank for a reason. Gotta trust that he's doing it right.

I think the SR bowl thing was not neccesarily a bad decision. As a fan, I would rather him went, but by not going I think in some quasi way, he gained ground on the other QB's or was put farther ahead of them.

In a nothing negative= a positive.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by BossChief

If its that easy, then why don't the top guys ever do it?

I sometimes feel like you don't read much.

I've spoken to my reasons several times and so far the best response you or anyone else seems inclined to give is "well other guys don't do it" as though that's some sort of substantive retort.

I. do. not. give. a. shit. if. past. quarterbacks. haven't. thrown.

I've now said it 4 times, is it clear enough yet? Past quarterbacks weren't coming on the heels of the Luck/RGIII draft and having to prove their mettle in a fairly bunched QB class (that is regarded as a QB poor draft as it is).

Geno is facing a set of circumstances that are relatively unique this year and he's going to do nothing more than a single pro day to not only separate himself from his QB peers, but guys like Joeckel, Moore, etc...; that's a massive error in judgment.

[fairladyZ]

everyone complains they want a qb that has the "IT" factor.. I agree i want a qb that has the IT factor and is not afraid to throw the ball no matter who he's throwing too. The guy that has the IT factor is going to go out there and throw the ****ing ball to prove he's the man. Don't care about other top QB's not throwing it. Those were different years and we weren't in position to take those guys, or we just plain passed on taking them. If geno is the guy that everyone says he is and has the IT factor i want him to prove it.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

completely bias

He is making money off these guys

The higher they get drafted, the better he looks


Geno Smith is not like RGIII
Tyler Wilson is not Matt Stafford

I like Wilson/Smith but he is blowing smoke


both Wilson and Smith are a good fit for the 1st pick ... imagine that


dude is trying to get paid

Definitely. About the only thing worth listening to in this interview were the mild criticisms. And we can assume that he was pulling punches there too.