Football Chris Weinke (IMG Academy) Talks with Danny Parkins about upcoming QB class. - Page 15

**mdchiefsfan** · 01-29-2013, 06:58 AM

http://www.610sports.com/topic/play_...udioId=6212845

Pretty good stuff in here guys. Sorry if Q.

O.city · 01-29-2013, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

To an opposing player.

I'm pretty sick of hearing about Cutler. If he didn't have an elite arm, he wouldn't even be a starter in the league.

Well, thats getting a little apples to oranges.

We aren't talking about accuracy. We are talking about arm strength.

O.city · 01-29-2013, 10:01 PM

Again, guys, I'm not trying to sling shit at Geno. I'm a big fan. I'm just having a discussion. We haven't had one of those around in a while where there wasn't yelling and gnashing off teeth and mothers being ****ed.

**BossChief** · 01-29-2013, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Not throwing at combine? Link?

The missing link, anyway.

We are just discussing the merits on how each of us would react to him not throwing...if that turns out to be the case.

Strongside · 01-29-2013, 10:06 PM

This is from a little earlier in the year, but still good stuff...

Comparing RG3 and Geno
http://www.optimumscouting.com/draft...t-griffin.html

In differentiating these two prospects, it’s clear that Geno Smith is following Robert Griffin III’s footsteps in becoming the next hot prospect and potential top 5 overall draft choice. Their production, physical build, arm talent, accuracy, and explosive supporting casts are remarkably similar, but the intriguing aspect of this comparison, is how much further developed Geno Smith appears to be. Not the Olympic hurdler that Griffin was, or possessing the same 4.4 speed, Geno Smith has become the player he is today, through polished throwing mechanics, precise footwork, and feel for the game.

So in a sense, the choice of which quarterback is better than the other ultimately comes down to what you value more –high floor or high ceiling. Robert Griffin III’s combination of deep passing ability and elite athletic attributes paint a stark contrast to Geno Smith’s calculated approach and highly accurate arm. To me, Geno Smith is every bit, worthy of the top 5 pick that RG3 warranted, especially for teams in need of a franchise quarterback.

htismaqe · 01-29-2013, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Sure.

But running around saying its in his best interest not to do it, simply because previous guys didn't or he is being advised not to doesn't mean it isn't a questionable decision.

It may work out, it may not.

Nobody is saying it's in his best interest not to do it.

I've said all along that its possible, and even likely, that he is BEING ADVISED its in his best interest not to do it.

And the fact that guys have skipped it before without consequence certainly suggests that if he decides to skip it, he will be just fine.

htismaqe · 01-29-2013, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Again, guys, I'm not trying to sling shit at Geno. I'm a big fan. I'm just having a discussion. We haven't had one of those around in a while where there wasn't yelling and gnashing off teeth and mothers being ****ed.

Totally.

**BossChief** · 01-29-2013, 10:12 PM

It's so nice to not have Blackbob shitting on discussions like this one, anymore.

O.city · 01-29-2013, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Nobody is saying it's in his best interest not to do it.

I've said all along that its possible, and even likely, that he is BEING ADVISED its in his best interest not to do it.

And the fact that guys have skipped it before without consequence certainly suggests that if he decides to skip it, he will be just fine.

Yes, but this situation is a little different. Normally, when a QB skips it, it's because he's the head and shoulders QB of that class. Based on what we are being told, at this point, Geno isn't considered to be that.

Like I said, maybe what we are being told is wrong, maybe what Geno is being told is wrong. I'd think his agents have a better idea of what teams are thinking than some internet mock draft guys do, but at this point we just don't know.

silver5liter · 01-29-2013, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by fairladyZ

hey DJ have you studied much on the other QB's? mainly barkley? your thoughts on barkley? he's probably my front runner for QB but thats just me. I think his arm strength is under estimated as he throws alot of touch passes. Seen him rifle them in there when needed. He's at IMG aswell isn't he?

Barkley is cool if you like noodle arm usc qbs

fairladyZ · 01-29-2013, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Geno's arm is quite a bit stronger than Barkley's.

i've seen everything that's been posted, like i've said i haven't watched all his games like some have but i have yet to see geno make a throw barkley can't. I'm not bashing geno i'm just saying i dont think his arm is much above barkley's. i think barkley has a under estimated arm for sure. If you can show me otherwise i'm open to seeing a throw geno has made that barkley can't.

If you watch just from like 12 minutes on he has a number of throws that are above average arm strength and on par with geno's that i've seen. If you watch the whole video you'll see him flip the ball down off his back foot for 40yrds just like i've seen geno do. Now matt's footwork is near perfect and i still think he can get a little stronger in his arm. But very good possibility once geno fixes his mechanical issue he will have a stronger arm for sure.

O.city · 01-29-2013, 10:16 PM

Barkley doesn't have a noodle arm, but he's a guy that I think has pretty much hit his ceiling in terms of physical abilities. He can't tweek his footwork etc as much.

Strongside · 01-29-2013, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by silver5liter

Barkley is cool if you like noodle arm usc qbs

O'hai gais!

silver5liter · 01-29-2013, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Strongside

O'hai gais!

I can't see this picture on my phone, but I'm just imagining a picture of Matt cassel

O.city · 01-29-2013, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by fairladyZ

i've seen everything that's been posted, like i've said i haven't watched all his games like some have but i have yet to see geno make a throw barkley can't. I'm not bashing geno i'm just saying i dont think his arm is much above barkley's. i think barkley has a under estimated arm for sure. If you can show me otherwise i'm open to seeing a throw geno has made that barkley can't.

If you watch just from like 12 minutes on he has a number of throws that are above average arm strength and on par with geno's that i've seen. If you watch the whole video you'll see him flip the ball down off his back foot for 40yrds just like i've seen geno do. Now matt's footwork is near perfect and i still think he can get a little stronger in his arm. But very good possibility once geno fixes his mechanical issue he will have a stronger arm for sure.

Well, to be honest, you answered your own question. Barkley is pretty much polished to the point that what you are seeing now is the ceiling. He doesn't have the arm strength.

silver5liter · 01-29-2013, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Well, to be honest, you answered your own question. Barkley is pretty much polished to the point that what you are seeing now is the ceiling. He doesn't have the arm strength.

Basically this. his arm isn't as strong as genos.

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Strongside Mahomes or GTFO Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: KC Casino cash: $4344282	This is from a little earlier in the year, but still good stuff... Comparing RG3 and Geno http://www.optimumscouting.com/draft...t-griffin.html In differentiating these two prospects, it’s clear that Geno Smith is following Robert Griffin III’s footsteps in becoming the next hot prospect and potential top 5 overall draft choice. Their production, physical build, arm talent, accuracy, and explosive supporting casts are remarkably similar, but the intriguing aspect of this comparison, is how much further developed Geno Smith appears to be. Not the Olympic hurdler that Griffin was, or possessing the same 4.4 speed, Geno Smith has become the player he is today, through polished throwing mechanics, precise footwork, and feel for the game. So in a sense, the choice of which quarterback is better than the other ultimately comes down to what you value more –high floor or high ceiling. Robert Griffin III’s combination of deep passing ability and elite athletic attributes paint a stark contrast to Geno Smith’s calculated approach and highly accurate arm. To me, Geno Smith is every bit, worthy of the top 5 pick that RG3 warranted, especially for teams in need of a franchise quarterback. __________________
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O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-595936	Barkley doesn't have a noodle arm, but he's a guy that I think has pretty much hit his ceiling in terms of physical abilities. He can't tweek his footwork etc as much.
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