The "IF no QB with the 1st pick" poll

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by O.city

So Joeckel is a hall of famer in the making huh? Me thinks you been listening to the talking heads a little too much.

I don't know what you're talking about, but if I had to put money on which guy ends up in the HoF, I'd certainly take Joeckel over Smith. The odds are long on either one though.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by patteeu

I don't know what you're talking about, but if I had to put money on which guy ends up in the HoF, I'd certainly take Joeckel over Smith. The odds are long on either one though.

You're a ****ing moron.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by milkman

You're a ****ing moron.

How much did perhaps the greatest T ever help the Bengals?...

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by milkman

You're a ****ing moron.

Look at what you've become.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by patteeu

Look at what you've become.

He's pretty consistently been him...

[milkman]

Originally Posted by patteeu

Look at what you've become.

A guy that points out idiocy when I see it?

[O.city]

Originally Posted by milkman

A guy that points out idiocy when I see it?

You aren't a GM, you haven't worked in football. What do you know?

[Rasputin]

I'm convinced that even if Andrew Luck was sitting there for us to take with the first pick this fan base would find reasons not to take him. Chiefs would trade out and we would miss out on the best QB prospect in ten years or life time opportunity.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

I'm convinced that even if Andrew Luck was sitting there for us to take with the first pick this fan base would find reasons not to take him. Chiefs would trade out and we would miss out on the best QB prospect in ten years or life time opportunity.

"Do you see how valuable this pick is? Think of how many draft picks we could acquire if we traded out! When you're 2-14 like we are, you have more holes than just at QB. We need every draft pick we can get! Don't just waste our top draft pick's value on one player when we can get a boatload!"

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by patteeu

I don't know what you're talking about, but if I had to put money on which guy ends up in the HoF, I'd certainly take Joeckel over Smith. The odds are long on either one though.

A HOF LT wins us what, exactly? We've had a pretty damn good one (not HOF, but good enough) for the past two seasons. So why does our offense struggle the way it does despite that LT and a RB that rivals Jim ****ing Brown in career YPC?

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by SNR

A HOF LT wins us what, exactly? We've had a pretty damn good one (not HOF, but good enough) for the past two seasons. So why does our offense struggle the way it does despite that LT and a RB that rivals Jim ****ing Brown in career YPC?

I think it's way too early to call Joeckel a HOF LT, but to answer your question, a HOF LT wins you a lot more than a journeyman QB.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by patteeu

I think it's way too early to call Joeckel a HOF LT, but to answer your question, a HOF LT wins you a lot more than a journeyman QB.

Nope...

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by patteeu

I think it's way too early to call Joeckel a HOF LT, but to answer your question, a HOF LT wins you a lot more than a journeyman QB.

A HOF LT wins jack and shit until the team gets a QB.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by patteeu

I think it's way too early to call Joeckel a HOF LT, but to answer your question, a HOF LT wins you a lot more than a journeyman QB.

That's not the question, Bill O'Reilly.

We have the choice between Geno and Joeckel. You asked which is more likely, Joeckel as a HOF LT or Geno as a HOF QB. I said it doesn't matter because a HOF LT doesn't win you shit. Then you started talking about journeyman QBs.

You can't do that. We're talking about the rewards outweighing the risks. Right now the likelihood of Joeckel or Geno being HOF is low and negligible. You have to logically assume that Geno will be a HOF QB in order to balance the hypothetical.

Here it is again. A HOF LT gets you nothing. A HOF QB gets you immortality.

Take the QB over the LT. Every ****ing time. Especially when it's the difference between the potential for greatness of players like Joeckel and Geno.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by SNR

That's not the question, Bill O'Reilly.

We have the choice between Geno and Joeckel. You asked which is more likely, Joeckel as a HOF LT or Geno as a HOF QB. I said it doesn't matter because a HOF LT doesn't win you shit. Then you started talking about journeyman QBs.

You can't do that. We're talking about the rewards outweighing the risks. Right now the likelihood of Joeckel or Geno being HOF is low and negligible. You have to logically assume that Geno will be a HOF QB in order to balance the hypothetical.

Here it is again. A HOF LT gets you nothing. A HOF QB gets you immortality.

Take the QB over the LT. Every ****ing time. Especially when it's the difference between the potential for greatness of players like Joeckel and Geno.

This is the kind of question people who have no clue about talent ask because it then just becomes a simple question to answer based on generic positional importance. It's all just random luck so let's swing for a QB, the most important position of all.

People who do this professionally, actually assess the quality of the individual players before making a choice in the draft. If they assess the LT and the QB to be equally talented (with equal needs at the positions), they'll end up picking the QB just like you want. The only reason they would pick Joeckel ahead of a QB would be if they decided the quality differential was great.