Jadeveon Clowney should lawyer up, challenge nonsensical 'three-years-out' rule

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Taking another pass rusher, when you have 2 pro bowlers and ZILCH at QB, which is the situation the Chiefs are in, is absolutely why guys get fired.

So what you're saying is that you don't trust Andy Reid to coach up any QB besides Geno Smith?

[O.city]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

So what you're saying is that you don't trust Andy Reid to coach up any QB besides Geno Smith?

If this QB class is such trash, why take the 5 best QB and not the 1st?

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by O.city

If this QB class is such trash, why take the 5 best QB and not the 1st?

I don't think it's that awful of a class.

I don't think Barkley's stock has disintegrated over one year like most do. I think someone will emerge from the middle tier and have a successful NFL career.

Clowney is the only one I take that chance with.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

I don't think it's that awful of a class.

I don't think Barkley's stock has disintegrated over one year like most do. I think someone will emerge from the middle tier and have a successful NFL career.

Clowney is the only one I take that chance with.

I can totally respect this opinion but I just can't wrap my mind around it.

We had Derrick Thomas, one of the best pass rushers of ALL TIME, and he couldn't get into the HoF because he NEVER had a QB worth a shit.

It's time to decide whether we're gonna fish with the big boys or sit on the bank and cut bait.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

I can totally respect this opinion but I just can't wrap my mind around it.

We had Derrick Thomas, one of the best pass rushers of ALL TIME, and he couldn't get into the HoF because he NEVER had a QB worth a shit.

It's time to decide whether we're gonna fish with the big boys or sit on the bank and cut bait.

This goes back to my other post then. You are basically saying at 2.2 we have no shot at any QB worth shit, and I disagree with that.

I don't think Geno Smith is the end all, be all at QB in this draft.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

This goes back to my other post then. You are basically saying at 2.2 we have no shot at any QB worth shit, and I disagree with that.

No, that's not what I'm saying.

I'm saying at 2-2, we have a 1000-times smaller chance of finding any QB worth a shit.

I'm done gambling with the QB position or looking for a diamond in the rough. We have the #1 overall pick for the first time ever. It's put up or shut up time.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

No, that's not what I'm saying.

I'm saying at 2-2, we have a 1000-times smaller chance of finding any QB worth a shit.

I'm done gambling with the QB position or looking for a diamond in the rough. We have the #1 overall pick for the first time ever. It's put up or shut up time.

This isn't passing on Andrew Luck and trying to strike gold later. This is passing on Geno Smith for Clowney.

I'm just not buying that it's 1000x smaller of a chance that someone at 2.2 pans out than him.

There's no way you're advocating taking Barkley or Tyler Wilson 1 overall.

[Brock]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

I can totally respect this opinion but I just can't wrap my mind around it.

We had Derrick Thomas, one of the best pass rushers of ALL TIME, and he couldn't get into the HoF because he NEVER had a QB worth a shit.

It's time to decide whether we're gonna fish with the big boys or sit on the bank and cut bait.

QBs were harder to find back then. A LOT harder to find.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Brock

QBs were harder to find back then. A LOT harder to find.

Then I guess it's time to take one. Much less risk.

[Brock]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Then I guess it's time to take one. Much less risk.

My guess is that isn't going to happen.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

So what you're saying is that you don't trust Andy Reid to coach up any QB besides Geno Smith?

Even if Andy Reid is QB Jesus, you always get more out of maximizing the talent of a more talented player over a less talented one. It's just math.

If Geno is the best QB, you take him. Period.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

So what you're saying is that you don't trust Andy Reid to coach up any QB besides Geno Smith?

Did I say anything about Geno Smith?

I want them to take a QB and develop him, whether that be Smith, Wilson, or even Barkley.

It's not Geno or bust for me, no matter how much you want to make it out to be.

But we have the #1 overall pick for the first and only time in the 30+ years I've been a fan. They better not **** this up. I've been nothing but loyal for 3 decades of bullshit, it's time for payback.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Did I say anything about Geno Smith?

I want them to take a QB and develop him, whether that be Smith, Wilson, or even Barkley.

It's not Geno or bust for me, no matter how much you want to make it out to be.

But we have the #1 overall pick for the first and only time in the 30+ years I've been a fan. They better not **** this up. I've been nothing but loyal for 3 decades of bullshit, it's time for payback.

So if they in a perfect world ended up with Clowney and Barkley, how would you feel?

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

So if they in a perfect world ended up with Clowney and Barkley, how would you feel?

I'd be alright with that.

But to me that's not a perfect world, that's a fantasy world.

If we're gonna get Wilson, Smith, or Barley, it's at #1. This idea that the stars are going to align, the Red Sea is gonna part, and we're gonna trade up to #21 to get "our" QB is pure unicorns and rainbows.