Chiefs Clark Judge: Chiefs can't afford to take quarterback with first pick of draft - Page 5

Marco Polo · 02-14-2013, 11:07 AM

Cover of cbssports.com:

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/cl...-pick-of-draft

With two months to go before commissioner Roger Goodell steps to the lecturn to open the NFL draft, I have a prediction: The Kansas City Chiefs don't choose a quarterback with the first pick.

Yeah, I know, they need one like L.A. needs mass transit, and they'd take one if there were an Andrew Luck or Matt Stafford available.

But there's not.
In fact, there's nobody even close, and if you think I'm kidding you weren't listening to what Frank Scelfo, Jacksonville's quarterbacks coach, said about Blaine Gabbert the other day -- namely, that if he were in this year's draft he'd be the No. 1 choice.

That should tell you something about the field. It should also tell you what the Chiefs' first move should be -- namely, anywhere but quarterback.

With the first choice you don't draft for need; you draft the best player out there. You go in one direction and one direction only, and that's for the sure thing. You absolutely, positively must be sold that whomever you choose steps in, starts and becomes the foundation of your franchise for the next 5-10 years.

So tell me which of these guys fits that description: Geno Smith? Matt Barkley? Tyler Wilson? Tyler Bray? All have holes in their games, and none is worth choosing with the first, second or third picks.

So that makes Kansas City's options easy: Either stay where you are and choose the best player -- a pass rusher, maybe, or a left tackle -- or find your quarterback with a later choice. The bottom line is that the Chiefs must be true to their board, choosing the guy at the top ... and I can't imagine any of these quarterbacks is anywhere near there.

In fact, one guy I trust who studied this class of quarterbacks thinks it's so underwhelming he's not sure there's a legit first-rounder in there.

I'm serious.

That doesn't mean there won't be a quarterback taken in the first round. Of course there will. There will be more than one. It's a passing league, and clubs that don't have good, young quarterbacks can't wait to get their hands on one. So they reach, just as teams did in the 2011 draft when four quarterbacks went with the first 12 picks, leaving Andy Dalton to Cincinnati in the second round.

Dalton is the only quarterback in that class to make the playoffs his first two seasons, and there's a lesson there for Kansas City: Don't overdraft the position.

"We never reached (when I was at Dallas) -- except for one time," said former Cowboys executive Gil Brandt. "We were supposed to take Joe Montana (in the third round of the 1979 draft), but we had three veteran quarterbacks, and (then coach) Tom Landry said, 'I can't carry four quarterbacks.' So we took Doug Cosbie instead."

Cosbie was a decent tight end who was named to three Pro Bowls, but Montana was a Hall-of-Fame quarterback who won four Super Bowls.

Everyone knows the Chiefs need someone to replace Matt Cassel, but not with the first pick of the 2013 draft they don't. They can find one by trading out and moving down or by staying put and choosing a quarterback at the top of the second round, much as San Diego did in 2001. Instead of taking Michael Vick with the first selection, the Bolts that year traded the pick to Atlanta, then tapped running back LaDainian Tomlinson with the pick acquired from the Falcons and quarterback Drew Brees at the top of the second round.

The problem for Kansas City is that it chose the wrong year to bottom out. The 2012 draft was the time and place to find a quarterback with a high draft pick, with Luck and Robert Griffin III the first two choices. It's not just that they were the two best quarterbacks out there; it's that they were at or near the top of everyone's boards. So Indianapolis took the best player in the draft; Washington took the second best, and that's the way it's supposed to go.

Which means you can scratch Kansas City from choosing a quarterback with the first pick for one very important reason: That player should be the best player in the draft, and there's not a quarterback who qualifies.

T-Town · 02-14-2013, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Marco Polo

Cover of cbssports.com:

if you think I'm kidding you weren't listening to what Frank Scelfo, Jacksonville's quarterbacks coach, said about Blaine Gabbert the other day

You want us to listen to Frank Scelfo, whose biggest accomplishment was Nick ****ing Foles????? GTFO. Between crap like this, the dumbasses who think taking Jokeyl is a better idea than taking a shot at a QB in a pass happy league, and the people who think its best to find more ****ing weapons for Matt Cassel, I'm going to go insane by the time the draft comes around and won't be able to watch all the idiots cry when we do draft Geno #1.

htismaqe · 02-14-2013, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Crush

The tackle position is not a safe pick.

Do the names Tony Mandarich, Kenyatta Walker, Mike Williams, Robert Gallery, Tony Ugoh, and Jason Smith mean anything to the true fans?

Tackles are always safe.

COchief · 02-14-2013, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by GoWalrus

You ever read the tripe this traitor has written?

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=237636

My blood, it's boiling...

KCDC · 02-14-2013, 12:20 PM

The Jaguar's/ Raiders/Bills/Cardinals front office continues its covert media campaign to try and convince the Chiefs to pass on Geno so they can grab him.

**LoneWolf** · 02-14-2013, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

What did Brees win the Chargers?

A ride out of town after the Chargers spent what was essentially the number 1 overall pick on another QB. Good thing the Chargers traded down and drafted for value.

**Bob Dole** · 02-14-2013, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

They're only saying it BECAUSE the Chiefs have the 1st pick. Guarantee you if the Raiders had the first pick....they'd be all about them drafting Geno. You'd read stories about how you can't let a previous bust stop you from trying again.

The point is that Bob Dole cannot recall EVER hearing anyone say there was not a QB in the entire draft who was a solid first round pick.

htismaqe · 02-14-2013, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by GoWalrus

Jesus Christ does it ever.

It's like every day we're almost going to win one of the games we lost last season.

I'm honestly about ready to quit again. This offseason SUCKS.

ToxSocks · 02-14-2013, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

I'm honestly about ready to quit again. This offseason SUCKS.

I hear ya. **** it, Im logging. I'll be back later.

BigChiefFan · 02-14-2013, 12:42 PM

Judge must have fallen on his head. That's laughable.

Hammock Parties · 02-14-2013, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

Judge must have fallen on his head. That's laughable.

He's been deep throating Carl and Pioli forever.

King_Chief_Fan · 02-14-2013, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by T-Town

You want us to listen to Frank Scelfo, whose biggest accomplishment was Nick ****ing Foles????? GTFO. Between crap like this, the dumbasses who think taking Jokeyl is a better idea than taking a shot at a QB in a pass happy league, and the people who think its best to find more ****ing weapons for Matt Cassel, I'm going to go insane by the time the draft comes around and won't be able to watch all the FANS cry when we do draft Geno #1.

I don't care who they draft, they don't pay me for the successes of the team or blame me for the failures. I get to sit on the sideline and watch if I want or go golf when I don't. You all have to get something else going in your life. Chiefs will suck the life out of you.

**Bowser** · 02-14-2013, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by GoWalrus

He's been deep throating Carl and ***** forever.

What pull does Pioli have with these hacks, anyway? Fat Scott might well be the world's best used car salesman, ever.

Dayze · 02-14-2013, 12:51 PM

'can't afford' lmao.

WTF.
yeah, if we take one, it might set us back another 41 years and we'd miss out on those awesome 8-8 seasons

htismaqe · 02-14-2013, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan

I don't care who they draft, they don't pay me for the successes of the team or blame me for the failures. I get to sit on the sideline and watch if I want or go golf when I don't. You all have to get something else going in your life. Chiefs will suck the life out of you.

WISDOM.

Hoover · 02-14-2013, 01:07 PM

So I guess we can say that Luck and RGIII have made all NFL reporters stupid.

There are no locks in the draft. RGIII was not a lock. Luck was, but that doesn't happen much. The notion that our pick has to be the foundation of your franchise for the next 5-10 years takes the risk and reward aspect out of the draft. What are we supposed to do, take a guard? Screw that and screw you Judge.

02-14-2013, 11:07 AM
Marco Polo Veteran Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: 41°59.4′N 87°39.6'W Casino cash: $3938908	Clark Judge: Chiefs can't afford to take quarterback with first pick of draft Cover of cbssports.com: http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/cl...-pick-of-draft With two months to go before commissioner Roger Goodell steps to the lecturn to open the NFL draft, I have a prediction: The Kansas City Chiefs don't choose a quarterback with the first pick. Yeah, I know, they need one like L.A. needs mass transit, and they'd take one if there were an Andrew Luck or Matt Stafford available. But there's not. In fact, there's nobody even close, and if you think I'm kidding you weren't listening to what Frank Scelfo, Jacksonville's quarterbacks coach, said about Blaine Gabbert the other day -- namely, that if he were in this year's draft he'd be the No. 1 choice. That should tell you something about the field. It should also tell you what the Chiefs' first move should be -- namely, anywhere but quarterback. With the first choice you don't draft for need; you draft the best player out there. You go in one direction and one direction only, and that's for the sure thing. You absolutely, positively must be sold that whomever you choose steps in, starts and becomes the foundation of your franchise for the next 5-10 years. So tell me which of these guys fits that description: Geno Smith? Matt Barkley? Tyler Wilson? Tyler Bray? All have holes in their games, and none is worth choosing with the first, second or third picks. So that makes Kansas City's options easy: Either stay where you are and choose the best player -- a pass rusher, maybe, or a left tackle -- or find your quarterback with a later choice. The bottom line is that the Chiefs must be true to their board, choosing the guy at the top ... and I can't imagine any of these quarterbacks is anywhere near there. In fact, one guy I trust who studied this class of quarterbacks thinks it's so underwhelming he's not sure there's a legit first-rounder in there. I'm serious. That doesn't mean there won't be a quarterback taken in the first round. Of course there will. There will be more than one. It's a passing league, and clubs that don't have good, young quarterbacks can't wait to get their hands on one. So they reach, just as teams did in the 2011 draft when four quarterbacks went with the first 12 picks, leaving Andy Dalton to Cincinnati in the second round. Dalton is the only quarterback in that class to make the playoffs his first two seasons, and there's a lesson there for Kansas City: Don't overdraft the position. "We never reached (when I was at Dallas) -- except for one time," said former Cowboys executive Gil Brandt. "We were supposed to take Joe Montana (in the third round of the 1979 draft), but we had three veteran quarterbacks, and (then coach) Tom Landry said, 'I can't carry four quarterbacks.' So we took Doug Cosbie instead." Cosbie was a decent tight end who was named to three Pro Bowls, but Montana was a Hall-of-Fame quarterback who won four Super Bowls. Everyone knows the Chiefs need someone to replace Matt Cassel, but not with the first pick of the 2013 draft they don't. They can find one by trading out and moving down or by staying put and choosing a quarterback at the top of the second round, much as San Diego did in 2001. Instead of taking Michael Vick with the first selection, the Bolts that year traded the pick to Atlanta, then tapped running back LaDainian Tomlinson with the pick acquired from the Falcons and quarterback Drew Brees at the top of the second round. The problem for Kansas City is that it chose the wrong year to bottom out. The 2012 draft was the time and place to find a quarterback with a high draft pick, with Luck and Robert Griffin III the first two choices. It's not just that they were the two best quarterbacks out there; it's that they were at or near the top of everyone's boards. So Indianapolis took the best player in the draft; Washington took the second best, and that's the way it's supposed to go. Which means you can scratch Kansas City from choosing a quarterback with the first pick for one very important reason: That player should be the best player in the draft, and there's not a quarterback who qualifies.
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Hoover Rufus Dawes Jr. Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $-2091821	So I guess we can say that Luck and RGIII have made all NFL reporters stupid. There are no locks in the draft. RGIII was not a lock. Luck was, but that doesn't happen much. The notion that our pick has to be the foundation of your franchise for the next 5-10 years takes the risk and reward aspect out of the draft. What are we supposed to do, take a guard? Screw that and screw you Judge.
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