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02-20-2013, 10:53 AM | #1 | |
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The only vet i see worth bringing in would be Hasselbeck. It might suck giving up a 3rd, but we do have two 3rd round picks (or at least we should, not sure if it's been confirmed yet) so we can still pick quality players. |
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02-20-2013, 10:59 AM | #2 | |
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That's crazy talk. Yeah, they need to use one of their first 3 on a QB, no question. The 2nd QB hole should probably be filled in some other fashion. For instance, if they take Geno at 1.1, would you really think its wise to use the 2nd rounder, which could be our #2 corner/WR or the 3rd rounder, which could be our starting SS, on a backup QB? No, I don't think this franchise has any business doing that right now. They need to decide who they're going to pick as their QBOTF this year and they need to aggressively pursue that option. If that's Geno Smith - get him. If it's Nick Foles, figure something out. Then from there you use the rest of your picks to fill other gaping holes on the roster and you try to be creative with the backup QB role. There's always a Henne or Orton or Moore to be had as a sound backup QB. The fact that Scooter intentionally avoided ever having a viable backup quarterback on this roster to avoid pressuring his dipshit pet doesn't mean that they're actually that difficult to acquire.
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02-20-2013, 11:08 AM | #3 | |
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Absolutely, unless they can pick some extra picks. This draft looks to have a ton of talent in the 2nd through 4th rounds. I would hate to trade those away. |
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02-20-2013, 11:15 AM | #4 | |
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So Nick Foles would essentially be our compensation for losing Carr, and we would STILL have a full slate of draft picks in every round to address other issues. It wouldn't be any different than a team spending the 1st overall on a QB and then using rounds 2-7 to address every other issue (which happens every season). Spending an early draft pick on what might amount to a back up may not be ideal to you, but it's something i would fully support if that's the direction they want to go in. Going into camp with two young, promising QB's doesn't sound like a bad plan to me. |
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02-20-2013, 11:21 AM | #5 | |
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Going into camp with a young, promising starting QB along with a young, promising SS sounds better than having a young, promising starting QB and another backup. It's about using finite resources to cover several holes. If we could trade the comp pick, I'd be okay with trading that for Foles - but we can't. We'd have to trade 3.1 and because of the depth of the 2nd round, there are going to be same damn good players there at 3.1 Harrison Smith was a first round pick for the Vike's last year and I think Baccari Rambo is a better player than Smith and he'll likely be there for us at 3.1 but not at the comp pick. This could be a bedrock draft and I want us to be as aggressive as possible in it. Using a high pick on a backup QB is reactive and I don't like it.
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02-20-2013, 11:31 AM | #6 | |
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Because we have an extra 3rd, we could walk away from the draft with: 1.1 QB 2.2 WR 3.1 Nick Foles 3.whatever SS etc. And like you pointed out, teams have been able to find quality starters at the safety position deeper in the draft, so there is still a very good chance you could find a quality player with 3.-whatever it's going to be. |
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02-20-2013, 11:25 AM | #8 | |
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Of course, teams don't do what the Skins did last year either. So maybe we're looking at the start of a new trend... |
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02-20-2013, 11:34 AM | #9 |
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Exactly.
Especially considering the success that young QB's have had in recent years. Couple that with the increased reliance on good QB play, the restructuring of the CBA which allows teams to take QB's early and not have to pay them enormous sums, and all of a sudden you have teams attempting to stock pile talent at the position. |
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02-20-2013, 01:59 PM | #11 | |
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02-20-2013, 11:29 AM | #12 | |
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They dedicated a reasonable FA contract and a 3rd round pick to the position - that's it. And who the hell would complain about that? That's not what some folks are suggesting. They're suggesting using 2 of our first 3 picks on the position. No, the Seahawks would've never done that. And frankly, the Seahawks are an outlier. If you're going to cite them as your model, then I guess we need to draft a bunch of 3rd and 4th round QBs, right? They got lucky.
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I like signing a vet FA, AND drafting the best QB available, and if the damned world league wouldn't have gone tits up I'd look there as well. The Niners didn't quit looking for QB's because they had Montana. Packers kept drafting and adding guys behind good QB's. You should be looking to improve your starter or depth every single year at that position...
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02-20-2013, 11:37 AM | #15 | |
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Sure, grab one this year and dedicate another good pick to the position in 2014. But I'm not going to go balls to the walls this season. You don't need to stock your entire QB roster in one off-season, especially if you're looking to build a 'pipeline'. We're just trying to do too much in one bite. I think this is the year that you get your QBOTF and find a competent veteran to either transition into the kid or just as veteran backup. Next year you keep your eyes open for another value QB in the 2nd or 3rd round and as the years go you continue to try to bring guys in and create depth at the position. But it's not like the Packers were throwing picks at QB once Rodgers stuck. When you have a great young QB, take another QB if he slides, but it's a little nutty to continue to force the issue at the position.
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