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Old 02-22-2013, 09:08 AM   #1
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I'm cool with getting Tyler Wilson at 34 or by trading back into the first. It seems like he'll definitely be there at the moment as Glennon, Geno and Barkley will surely be definite first round guys.

Contrary to popular belief, we don't have to get our QB of choice at 1 if it's a guy that people know for sure won't be first round pick.
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Old 02-22-2013, 09:13 AM   #2
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I'm cool with getting Tyler Wilson at 34 or by trading back into the first. It seems like he'll definitely be there at the moment as Glennon, Geno and Barkley will surely be definite first round guys.

Contrary to popular belief, we don't have to get our QB of choice at 1 if it's a guy that people know for sure won't be first round pick.
You keep saying this and it's fine I'd love it to work like that. But I'm tired of playing it risky with the qb spot and not having our choice.

If we wait we might miss out or not be able to trade back up etc.
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Old 02-22-2013, 09:20 AM   #3
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You keep saying this and it's fine I'd love it to work like that. But I'm tired of playing it risky with the qb spot and not having our choice.

If we wait we might miss out or not be able to trade back up etc.
They just need to know where to get their guy.

Teams do this often.

Ravens traded up for Flacco. 49ers traded up for Kaepernick. Seahawks were patient and let the draft play out for Wilson.
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Old 02-22-2013, 09:22 AM   #4
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They just need to know where to get their guy.

Teams do this often.

Ravens traded up for Flacco. 49ers traded up for Kaepernick. Seahawks were patient and let the draft play out for Wilson.
Yeah and how many teams have tried it and didnt get their guy? We have no idea obviously but it's risky and I'm not all about risk at that position anymore.

If it were clowney sitting at 1 **** yeah risk it cause the reward is worth it. IMO no other player there is worth the risk of missing out on your guy
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Old 02-22-2013, 09:24 AM   #5
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They just need to know where to get their guy.

Teams do this often.

Ravens traded up for Flacco.
Ravens didn't have a top 10 pick.

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49ers traded up for Kaepernick.
Neither did the 49ers.

Both of those picks were ADDING to an established team.

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Seahawks were patient and let the draft play out for Wilson.
Bullshit. The already had Flynn. Russell Wilson fell into their laps. They got LUCKY.
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They just need to know where to get their guy.

Teams do this often.

Ravens traded up for Flacco. 49ers traded up for Kaepernick. Seahawks were patient and let the draft play out for Wilson.
It only looks like teams were prescient on acquiring those QBs because they actually acquired them. What about all the other teams that wanted Flacco, Kaepernick, and Wilson? They clearly didn't know where those QBs should be appropriately drafted, and as a result they missed out.

And stop saying Russell Wilson was this pre-meditated action by the Seahawks going into the draft. They DID NOT ****ING SAY, "Okay guys, Russell Wilson is the QB we want, so let's just play it cool in the 1st and 2nd rounds and see how the picks lay out, then we'll go get him around the 3rd round just to be safe. It's where he's supposed to be drafted."

In fact, it's well-known that Pete Carroll and most of the scouts thought Wilson was a giant waste of a 3rd rounder. That was an instance of John Schneider overriding everybody in the room and picking the QB anyway. HE WAS NOT A PLAN, and Seattle had no ****ing clue where he would go coming into the draft.

Just shut your ****ing face, please.
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Old 02-22-2013, 09:35 AM   #7
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It only looks like teams were prescient on acquiring those QBs because they actually acquired them. What about all the other teams that wanted Flacco, Kaepernick, and Wilson? They clearly didn't know where those QBs should be appropriately drafted, and as a result they missed out.

And stop saying Russell Wilson was this pre-meditated action by the Seahawks going into the draft. They DID NOT ****ING SAY, "Okay guys, Russell Wilson is the QB we want, so let's just play it cool in the 1st and 2nd rounds and see how the picks lay out, then we'll go get him around the 3rd round just to be safe. It's where he's supposed to be drafted."

In fact, it's well-known that Pete Carroll and most of the scouts thought Wilson was a giant waste of a 3rd rounder. That was an instance of John Schneider overriding everybody in the room and picking the QB anyway. HE WAS NOT A PLAN, and Seattle had no ****ing clue where he would go coming into the draft.

Just shut your ****ing face, please.
And here is where you're proven wrong.



3:35

John Schneider had a love affair with him and Mortensen even knew the Seahawks would draft him. If you don't think it was their GM's "plan" to pick him, then you aren't paying attention.
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And here is where you're proven wrong.



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John Schneider had a love affair with him and Mortensen even knew the Seahawks would draft him. If you don't think it was their GM's "plan" to pick him, then you aren't paying attention.
He just said that in his defense.


However if you wanna hung the qb position on finding the next russel Wilson, I'm not sure that's the best idea
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He just said that in his defense.


However if you wanna hung the qb position on finding the next russel Wilson, I'm not sure that's the best idea
I'm CERTAIN it is NOT.
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John Schneider had a love affair with him and Mortensen even knew the Seahawks would draft him. If you don't think it was their GM's "plan" to pick him, then you aren't paying attention.
If they loved him so bad, why didnt they pick him earlier?
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If they loved him so bad, why didnt they pick him earlier?
They had just signed Flynn, which made them able to take a risk and see what happened.


IMO we don't exactly have that option right now
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John Schneider had a love affair with him and Mortensen even knew the Seahawks would draft him. If you don't think it was their GM's "plan" to pick him, then you aren't paying attention.
You're not paying attention you ****ing moron.

HOW MANY OTHER TEAMS HAD THE "PLAN" OF PICKING HIM?

It doesn't matter if you like a guy and have him circled on your board. Even Scott ****ing Pioli does that. No team knows when a player "should" get drafted. If Schneider legitimately thought that Wilson was HIS QB and the guy that he HAD to get, he would have drafted him a lot earlier, because NOBODY ****ING KNOWS WHAT THE HELL IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE DRAFT.

I just ****ing SAID in my last post that Schneider liked Russell Wilson a lot. It was the other guys in the room who didn't want to take him with that pick. That's far from a consensus team plan to wait things out and take Wilson "where he belongs"

You can't be this dumb.
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You're not paying attention you ****ing moron.

HOW MANY OTHER TEAMS HAD THE "PLAN" OF PICKING HIM?

It doesn't matter if you like a guy and have him circled on your board. Even Scott ****ing ***** does that. No team knows when a player "should" get drafted. If Schneider legitimately thought that Wilson was HIS QB and the guy that he HAD to get, he would have drafted him a lot earlier, because NOBODY ****ING KNOWS WHAT THE HELL IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE DRAFT.

I just ****ing SAID in my last post that Schneider liked Russell Wilson a lot. It was the other guys in the room who didn't want to take him with that pick. That's far from a consensus team plan to wait things out and take Wilson "where he belongs"

You can't be this dumb.
Obviously you haven't read many of his posts.
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You're not paying attention you ****ing moron.

HOW MANY OTHER TEAMS HAD THE "PLAN" OF PICKING HIM?

It doesn't matter if you like a guy and have him circled on your board. Even Scott ****ing ***** does that. No team knows when a player "should" get drafted. If Schneider legitimately thought that Wilson was HIS QB and the guy that he HAD to get, he would have drafted him a lot earlier, because NOBODY ****ING KNOWS WHAT THE HELL IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE DRAFT.

I just ****ing SAID in my last post that Schneider liked Russell Wilson a lot. It was the other guys in the room who didn't want to take him with that pick. That's far from a consensus team plan to wait things out and take Wilson "where he belongs"

You can't be this dumb.
They do what smart teams do: get value and the QB.

It was no secret that Russell Wilson was getting a 3rd round grade due to his height. Hell some people thought Foles would be taken before him because of that issue.

Teams will know what round each player, especially a QB, will be slotted in on draft day.
Pretty clear that Schneider zoned in on the kid and knew his height would keep him out of the first 2 rounds.
Teams will know EVERYTHING about a QB if they need one. E-V-E-R-Y-T-H-I-N-G.
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I'm cool with getting Tyler Wilson at 34
IF he falls to 34, yes.

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or by trading back into the first.
I HATE this idea. We have the #1 pick. We can settle this shit WITHOUT giving up VALUABLE picks. That pick at the top of the 2nd could net us a starting WR or starting CB.

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It seems like he'll definitely be there at the moment as Glennon, Geno and Barkley will surely be definite first round guys.
I think Barkley falling is more of a wildcard than Wilson.

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Contrary to popular belief, we don't have to get our QB of choice at 1 if it's a guy that people know for sure won't be first round pick.
There isn't a single guy in the 4 you mentioned that we know FOR SURE won't be a first round pick. So this is flawed logic.
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