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Old 02-22-2013, 10:24 AM   #1
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Teams will know what round each player will be slotted in. Especially the team that winds up in a position to draft said player.

For all the teams that wanted that player but missed out, they clearly didn't ****ing know where the QB was going to be drafted now, did they? I know only one team can pick one player, but your explanation is still a far ****ing cry from the Seahawks going, "We have Flynn but need another QB. Here's what we do: RUSSELL WILSON. Got it? He's gonna be our 3rd round pick, and no team will trade ahead of us to go get him, because we know EVERYTHING there is to know about this player."

I'm just trying to get you to stop saying reeruned shit like, "Teams know when players will be available in certain rounds." They can make educated guesses, but all it takes is a Christian Ponder reach or a huge ****ing surprise trade out of nowhere to throw things out of whack. Then all that educated speculation they made about the player goes out the window.

Smart teams don't pound the value button like a reeruned monkey. Smart teams isolate the players they really want and need, and they GET THEM. Regardless of whether or not it's considered a reach. For example, in that very same draft you saw Bruce Irvin get reached on hard by the Seahawks because they frankly didn't know if another team was going to one-up them. Irvin sure as hell wasn't very good value where they picked him, but they got their guy. They said, "**** value. We want this player." And they pulled the trigger.

Again, shut the **** up, dumbass
So by your logic, if Ryan Nassib or EJ Manuel is our top rated QB, we should take him 1st overall?

Because that's a ****ing horrible plan.
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Old 02-22-2013, 10:26 AM   #2
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So by your logic, if Ryan Nassib or EJ Manuel is our top rated QB, we should take him 1st overall?

Because that's a ****ing horrible plan.
Well, if they have those two as their top two QB's, we have a bigger problem all together, but lets not dive into that right now.


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Old 02-22-2013, 10:31 AM   #3
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Well, if they have those two as their top two QB's, we have a bigger problem all together, but lets not dive into that right now.


We'll have to see.

EJ Manuel is the closest thing to Donovan McNabb in this draft though. Very similar indeed.

Raw player with running ability, but better size and accuracy than McNabb. Hell their stats are also extremely similar.

Definitely think he's in the mix.
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Old 02-22-2013, 10:33 AM   #4
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We'll have to see.

EJ Manuel is the closest thing to Donovan McNabb in this draft though. Very similar indeed.

Raw player with running ability, but better size and accuracy than McNabb. Hell their stats are also extremely similar.

Definitely think he's in the mix.
Accuracy is terrible IMO. And if you don't like Geno for the flaws you say he has, Manuel has similar flaws and is worse.
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Old 02-22-2013, 11:15 AM   #5
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Accuracy is terrible IMO. And if you don't like Geno for the flaws you say he has, Manuel has similar flaws and is worse.
Geno is definitely the better thrower. His mechanics are far better.

I'm just saying that I really do believe EJ Manuel will be in the mix. The kid has potential and Reid is good at making QB's look so much better. Manuel is very raw, but so was Donovan.

If we did draft Manuel, then I see Reid using a very similar offense that Ratty used with RG3 last year.
That's Manuel's best fit IMO. Plus he won't break because he actually has the body to take hits unlike RG3.
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Old 02-22-2013, 11:18 AM   #6
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Geno is definitely the better thrower. His mechanics are far better.

I'm just saying that I really do believe EJ Manuel will be in the mix. The kid has potential and Reid is good at making QB's look so much better. Manuel is very raw, but so was Donovan.

If we did draft Manuel, then I see Reid using a very similar offense that Ratty used with RG3 last year.
That's Manuel's best fit IMO. Plus he won't break because he actually has the body to take hits unlike RG3.
Donovan had accuracy issues coming out because he liked to throw the ball deep.

Manuel struggles to complete short passes. His offense was largely dink and dunk and he STILL wasn't very good.

He'll NEVER be RG3. So you can put that to bed right now.
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Old 02-22-2013, 11:23 AM   #7
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Donovan had accuracy issues coming out because he liked to throw the ball deep.

Manuel struggles to complete short passes. His offense was largely dink and dunk and he STILL wasn't very good.

He'll NEVER be RG3. So you can put that to bed right now.
According to secondroundstats, Manuel's short and intermediate passes were actually very good. He was very accurate in that area. He struggled going 20+ yards though.

Manuel will never be RG3 and I'm sorry if it seemed like I was saying he was.

I just think the style of offense that Ratty ran last year with RG3 would be the best fit for Manuel.
I really do believe Manuel could excel in that type of offense.
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Geno is definitely the better thrower. His mechanics are far better.

I'm just saying that I really do believe EJ Manuel will be in the mix. The kid has potential and Reid is good at making QB's look so much better. Manuel is very raw, but so was Donovan.

If we did draft Manuel, then I see Reid using a very similar offense that Ratty used with RG3 last year.
That's Manuel's best fit IMO. Plus he won't break because he actually has the body to take hits unlike RG3.
The offense Ratty ran is basically the same offense he's ran forever, with a few changes, basically making it a single read offense for RGIII's first season. In reality, it wasn't a huge change to what he's always done, Rat that is.

Reid is going to run the offense he's always ran, coaches rarely change. He can simplify it yes, but it's still going to be WCO oriented.

Manuel does have alot of physical upside, but liek we've talked before, I just don't see him ever being that accurate of a passer. He is similar to McNabb in that case, that I don't see Donovan as an extremely accurate guy, but Reid got alot out of him.

But Manuel isn't really close to McNabb as a passer at this point, so we'll just ahve to disagree on that one.
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We'll have to see.

EJ Manuel is the closest thing to Donovan McNabb in this draft though. Very similar indeed.

Raw player with running ability, but better size and accuracy than McNabb. Hell their stats are also extremely similar.

Definitely think he's in the mix.
Come on man.

EJ Manuel is the closest thing to McNabb?

They're not similar AT ALL.

Did you even watch Manuel play?
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Come on man.

EJ Manuel is the closest thing to McNabb?

They're not similar AT ALL.

Did you even watch Manuel play?
It's RunKC.....of course he didn't watch them play.
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So by your logic, if Ryan Nassib or EJ Manuel is our top rated QB, we should take him 1st overall?

Because that's a ****ing horrible plan.
Why not? Should we wait until the next round and HOPE he doesn't get taken by the 31 others teams between our pick?
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So by your logic, if Ryan Nassib or EJ Manuel is our top rated QB, we should take him 1st overall?

Because that's a ****ing horrible plan.
You're the douche**** in elementary school, who after listening to the teacher say "Treat others as you want to be treated" you ask "What if we like being punched in the face?"

They don't think Ryan Nassib or EJ Manuel is the best QB. **** you.
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You're the douche**** in elementary school, who after listening to the teacher say "Treat others as you want to be treated" you ask "What if we like being punched in the face?"

They don't think Ryan Nassib or EJ Manuel is the best QB. **** you.
Oh very mature idiot ripping someone for a view that is not yours. Your so ****in stupid! I say yes E.J. is better than geno anyday . So put that in your pipe and smoke it asshole.
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Oh very mature idiot ripping someone for a view that is not yours. Your so ****in stupid! I say yes E.J. is better than geno anyday . So put that in your pipe and smoke it asshole.
1. You're just saying that because you're a mindless fool, angry at all the normal people who point and laugh at you every day.

2. If I'm wrong and you DO actually believe that, how does it taste to lick broken glass on the sidewalk? I've never tried it myself.
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